R1 to R2 transfers

[Jono]

If you've missed it, here's an example from Twitter 

 

[NathanS]

Wasn't expecting new 'news' beds yet. The previous ones were actually my favourite, and didn't sound out of place with the rest of the station's sound so I'm yet to decide if I like them or not.

[Darren m]

That what i was thinking
 

[JamTriv]

Yeah I'm not so into them like I was with the old ones..
 

[Jono]

There's a lot less branding in these ones, straight into the news and no outro, from what I've heard. They needed refreshing, so it's good it's finally happened.

[GeekTalk51]

Wonder if we’ll see the rest of the station imaging get a refresh?
 

[radio1fan]

The new Newsbeat imaging sounds like something the former 60 Seconds bulletin on BBC Three would have used. It’s much more authoritative and news sounding than the previous imaging to me at least

[Ant L]

Interesting that R1, 1Xtra and Asian Network have slightly different intro music. Trying to work out how it works - does the DJ’s intro effectively end at about x:30:00 and the bed itself played from Newsbeat?
 

[harryjms]

I recently left the BBC and I can tell you that each presenter plays the "Newsbeat Ramp In" at XX:XX:51, fade up the newsbeat studio on their desk, and then on the minute, the show presenter fades out the ramp in and leave the newsbeat studio faded up, until they finish

I've also noticed that the new R1 variant of the newsbeat intro sounds like a rework of R1 Weekend Breakfast opener ?

[Ash101]

It’s going to expose newer presenters or people who mess it up. As the clean “Newsbeat” stab into the bed after the headline kind of forgave any mess
 

[NathanS]

 It'll probably just take some getting used to for me, after nearly 5 years of the previous beds.

[IsaacM]

Just heard the new news beds - am liking the refresh after nearly 5 years of the old beds (the longest of any package recently I think!); one thing that stands out from me is the tailored ramp ups for each station

...but one thing that bugs me is the lack of an out stab - it'll take some getting used to but it puts it on a level with commercial radio offerings

[Joe]

I’m interested that there’s no ‘BBC’ in the new Newsbeat imaging - at a time when you efforts are being made the emphasise the BBC itself.

[GeekTalk51]

I’m warming to it - more more serious and authoritative - I like the difference. Agree it sounds like something for BBC Three.
 

[forde52]

So the new Newsbeat beds. Personally I like the beds themselves, including the unique openers for each station. But, having listened to all 3 station outputs, the lack of an out stab is really apparent, and sounds bad. There's certainly something missing!

But I'm also not keen on them starting the beds again after ever story, it sounds a little rough sometimes. The last package (5 years) was great, but it was time for something new.

[Lee E]

22 hours ago, harryjms said:

I recently left the BBC and I can tell you that each presenter plays the "Newsbeat Ramp In" at XX:XX:51, fade up the newsbeat studio on their desk, and then on the minute, the show presenter fades out the ramp in and leave the newsbeat studio faded up, until they finish

I've also noticed that the new R1 variant of the newsbeat intro sounds like a rework of R1 Weekend Breakfast opener ?

so how does the presenter keep to time for that? for instance systems like Myriad and PO1 at stations I work at have a time marker so you can see how much under or over you are - also how does it work when they change shows - so Greg to RMC for example

[harryjms]

19 hours ago, Ash101 said:

It’s going to expose newer presenters or people who mess it up. As the clean “Newsbeat” stab into the bed after the headline kind of forgave any mess
 

they have always varied the ramp in between networks, so there's no change from that perspective. I was curious about the ramp in top, but its 9 seconds like the old one so the presenters dont have any change to worry about

[harryjms]

15 hours ago, Lee E said:

so how does the presenter keep to time for that? for instance systems like Myriad and PO1 at stations I work at have a time marker so you can see how much under or over you are - also how does it work when they change shows - so Greg to RMC for example

pres is trained to know that they must hit play on the news ramp in at 51 secs because news reader will begin regardless. They use the clock in the studio to know the time and all the songs will be scheduled to account for this - if they are a minute or two ahead of sched they'll fill. 

as for show handover, lets say Greg is on Air in 82A and RMC are going to go from 82B - 82A has control of the network, shortly before RMC are due on air, they'll output a test tone. 82A will assign the output of 82B to a fader that they will then listen to, checking for the test tone.

If all is okay, 82B will stop the tone and 82A will fade them down. 82B will have the output of 82A on a fader of theirs so they can hear the studio and their cue to start about a minute before their on air time, 82A will fade 82B back up, and the first part of the show from 82B will go to air via 82A.

When everything is okay, 82B will request control of the network on the TX system, which 82A must approve as the currently on air studio 82A would the release their control, handing it over to 82B who is now the on air studio.

The "robot clara" effect you sometimes get occurs when a loop happens. If 82A is in control of the network, theyll have 82B faded up, but if 82B has 82A output faded up to their output, it loops back so you get this loops of audio that results in the robotic sounding audio.

[Bluestraw]

Sounds to me like there is a subtle change in the timings, they seem to be hitting the ramp in at xx:xx:50 today on the new beds, though the 'vocal' is slightly longer so they still have the same 8 seconds to speak. Funny how Arielle crashed it slightly on the first ever outing for the new stuff!

[harryjms]

12 hours ago, Bluestraw said:

Sounds to me like there is a subtle change in the timings, they seem to be hitting the ramp in at xx:xx:50 today on the new beds, though the 'vocal' is slightly longer so they still have the same 8 seconds to speak. Funny how Arielle crashed it slightly on the first ever outing for the new stuff!

Ah yes you’re right!
 

[Lee E]

Very informartive - and as per earlier whay about anthems and party anthems - they are done in blocks? how does that work

[harryjms]

11 hours ago, Lee E said:

Very informartive - and as per earlier whay about anthems and party anthems - they are done in blocks? how does that work

 yeah anthems are premixed and played out as a block. They load them in as a single file - and then have silent takes along side that act simply as the song metadata so that the currently playing (and PRS reporting) still happens

[ImMaxClaydon]

3 hours ago, harryjms said:

 yeah anthems are premixed and played out as a block. They load them in as a single file - and then have silent takes along side that act simply as the song metadata so that the currently playing (and PRS reporting) still happens

Thanks for this, some great insight ?