Scott v Matt and Mollie

[UnofficialStark]

Next Tuesday marks exactly a year since brand new schedule changes kicked in to replace Grimmy and Annie. Seeing as there's about to be even more changes next week, I thought now would be a good time to reflect on a year of the current schedule before Dean and Vicky etc. start.

So what is everyone's thoughts on RMC in live lounge slot, Vick and Jordan on drive, Clara on future sounds, Sian on Powerdown Playlist, Victoria Jane's new show, Dean on weekend mid mornings and finally Danny and Sarah's new shows on Friday after one year of hearing them all?

[BBCAaron]

6 hours ago, UnofficialStark said:

Next Tuesday marks exactly a year since brand new schedule changes kicked in to replace Grimmy and Annie. Seeing as there's about to be even more changes next week, I thought now would be a good time to reflect on a year of the current schedule before Dean and Vicky etc. start.

So what is everyone's thoughts on RMC in live lounge slot, Vick and Jordan on drive, Clara on future sounds, Sian on Powerdown Playlist, Victoria Jane's new show, Dean on weekend mid mornings and finally Danny and Sarah's new shows on Friday after one year of hearing them all?

Clara Amfo just doesn’t work on future sounds sometimes I feel she doesn’t have the conviction the confidence and the authority of the tone when you are on the mic in ways that specialist broadcasters of the show like Annie Macmanus and Zane Lowe even Huw when covered. Love to hear ones passion the full force behind the songs playing when do specialist programme.

Future Soul firm favourite of what I like on Sounds. Hard slot to do for Danny’ think he probably does alright but not one bothered to choose to listen to.

Power down playlist nightly from 10PM needs to be axed and scrapped. Dean never gelled and at point would tune into the station less.

[michaelb]

I like the concept of the mid-morning slot that it is mainly music but don't like the fact that RMC are doing it as they are fairly restricted and liked their previous late night slot.

 

Enjoyed Vick and Jordan at the start but seem less interested in it at the minute. Don't usually catch Clara unless I've left it on after 6, seems ok but nothing special. Do sometimes listen to Danny after the chart if I've listened to the chart and seem to like it but usually listen to the Capital Weekender as the music is more to my tastes. Haven't heard Sarah on Future Dance but seems good from what I heard from her at Big Weekender and also during the Dance Weekend.

 

Not heard Sian on the Powerdown Playlist but I do think they need a late show after Jack Saunders or extend some of the daytime/evening slots as 10pm feels a bit early to start pre-recorded content. I reckon Arielle could suit a late night slot if it's specialist or maybe a duo like Sam & Danni if they had a more entertainment like show. I think powerdown will probably fit better later in the evening. 

 

Not a fan of Dean so happy he's off to weekdays (not able to listen then). Some shows he doesn't grate that much and other shows he does my head in which means some weeks I only listen to Anthems and other weeks I listen to the full show. I'm happy that there is going to be a Radio 1 00s slot weekly and hope that Nat is the right fit (not heard her yet) and also happy that Katie has got her first permanent solo slot as I like her cover but sometimes I find her solo cover bland so I hope the same isn't the case with the new slot.

[BBCAaron]

30 minutes ago, michaelb said:

I like the concept of the mid-morning slot that it is mainly music but don't like the fact that RMC are doing it as they are fairly restricted and liked their previous late night slot.

 

Enjoyed Vick and Jordan at the start but seem less interested in it at the minute. Don't usually catch Clara unless I've left it on after 6, seems ok but nothing special. Do sometimes listen to Danny after the chart if I've listened to the chart and seem to like it but usually listen to the Capital Weekender as the music is more to my tastes. Haven't heard Sarah on Future Dance but seems good from what I heard from her at Big Weekender and also during the Dance Weekend.

 

Not heard Sian on the Powerdown Playlist but I do think they need a late show after Jack Saunders or extend some of the daytime/evening slots as 10pm feels a bit early to start pre-recorded content. I reckon Arielle could suit a late night slot if it's specialist or maybe a duo like Sam & Danni if they had a more entertainment like show. I think powerdown will probably fit better later in the evening. 

 

Not a fan of Dean so happy he's off to weekdays (not able to listen then). Some shows he doesn't grate that much and other shows he does my head in which means some weeks I only listen to Anthems and other weeks I listen to the full show. I'm happy that there is going to be a Radio 1 00s slot weekly and hope that Nat is the right fit (not heard her yet) and also happy that Katie has got her first permanent solo slot as I like her cover but sometimes I find her solo cover bland so I hope the same isn't the case with the new slot.

I definately agree with thoughts on the nighttime slot as something post The Indie Show and The 8th is lacking when Huw Stephens did the late night show he was a voice could have on late night and listen probably would’ve liked Phil and Alice’s stuff. Think they need to go for more nieche genres and sub-genres of new and underground music between hours of 1AM-4AM again and maybe expand the Future line of show Future Beats, Future Bars, Future Bass, Future Fusion or whatever and the current future programming then. Slashing the Dance/Relax generic playlist programming that happens as through the night content.

I kind of think that Benji B’s Chill Playlists, Get Set, Chill Mixes may work and fit but doesn’t need to be collated to a 24 hour on-demand stream same with Dance kind of feels like when Alex Lester and Janice Long got kicked off overnights as a year experiment had different playlists across Radio 2’s night schedule. So no presenter content for the ‘grave yard shifts’ until they hired OJ Borg.

Think more presenter led and radio sounding content is needed in the night time. Think changes are needed aren’t that hard to resolve. Think it would be good to see better commissioning anyway

 

[BBCAaron]

46 minutes ago, michaelb said:

I like the concept of the mid-morning slot that it is mainly music but don't like the fact that RMC are doing it as they are fairly restricted and liked their previous late night slot.

 

Enjoyed Vick and Jordan at the start but seem less interested in it at the minute. Don't usually catch Clara unless I've left it on after 6, seems ok but nothing special. Do sometimes listen to Danny after the chart if I've listened to the chart and seem to like it but usually listen to the Capital Weekender as the music is more to my tastes. Haven't heard Sarah on Future Dance but seems good from what I heard from her at Big Weekender and also during the Dance Weekend.

 

Not heard Sian on the Powerdown Playlist but I do think they need a late show after Jack Saunders or extend some of the daytime/evening slots as 10pm feels a bit early to start pre-recorded content. I reckon Arielle could suit a late night slot if it's specialist or maybe a duo like Sam & Danni if they had a more entertainment like show. I think powerdown will probably fit better later in the evening. 

 

Not a fan of Dean so happy he's off to weekdays (not able to listen then). Some shows he doesn't grate that much and other shows he does my head in which means some weeks I only listen to Anthems and other weeks I listen to the full show. I'm happy that there is going to be a Radio 1 00s slot weekly and hope that Nat is the right fit (not heard her yet) and also happy that Katie has got her first permanent solo slot as I like her cover but sometimes I find her solo cover bland so I hope the same isn't the case with the new slot.

Think point of having mix of music and entertainment in the later slots of an evening is important. As much like Scott’s last words if bit low had bit of a shit day having a feel good distracting, something positive and uplifting something that can be interactive and bring the listener in whilst making relaxed whilst bit of a laugh. As it can be good time for injecting some comedy.

[LSR1]

Personal favourites are Sarah Story’s show and I personally like having a Power Down Playlist at 10pm even if its pre-recorded. I think Radio 1 is in a good place with its specialist output at the moment.

For me personally I think a lot of the daytime changes simply haven’t wowed me because they followed presenters or shows I really liked and felt worked, which makes Radio 1 feel like its gone down a notch in quality in the last few years without meaning to sound too harsh! Dean and Vicky taking over Scott and Chris will no doubt add to that feeling in the coming weeks

[BraveInstance]

I always felt like Phil Taggart was overlooked for a bigger show. Just his luck that a whole station based around his show launched shortly after he left. Sian has done pretty well taking over from him. 

Biggest miss in Annie on a Friday night. Danny Howard was the natural choice to fit into the role and he does it well, but he doesn't have the same energy that she did.

RMC doesn't work on daytime radio. They were brought in to take over from Charlie Sloth. Charlie is great on Dance Anthems, and seems a lovely person.

[AndyK77]

RMC - I like them but feel show is a bit subdued compared to what it could be.

Vick and Jordan -  on the whole really enjoy, though at times feels a little overproduced.  They are at their best when they go "off script".

Clara - I thought she sounded great at first, but show seems to lack some energy and it also feels like Clara isn't involved much in cross-station activity in the way that say Jack is.

Powerdown playlist - bit of a switch off for me.

Dean - never really got into his show.  You can't like everything.

Danny - I actually really like him in that slot.

Sarah - Great show.

[BraveInstance]

3 hours ago, AndyK77 said:

RMC - I like them but feel show is a bit subdued compared to what it could be.

Vick and Jordan -  on the whole really enjoy, though at times feels a little overproduced.  They are at their best when they go "off script".

Clara - I thought she sounded great at first, but show seems to lack some energy and it also feels like Clara isn't involved much in cross-station activity in the way that say Jack is.

Powerdown playlist - bit of a switch off for me.

Dean - never really got into his show.  You can't like everything.

Danny - I actually really like him in that slot.

Sarah - Great show.

Jordan is definitely at his best off script and when he's just talking to the listeners.

Dean is like the radio equivalent of Love Island for me. It's never appealed to me and I don't think I'll ever get it. 

Funnily enough there was a couple of years a while back where every daytime presenter would talk about what happened on Love Island last night. Would drive me mad 

[BBCAaron]

4 hours ago, AndyK77 said:

RMC - I like them but feel show is a bit subdued compared to what it could be.

Vick and Jordan -  on the whole really enjoy, though at times feels a little overproduced.  They are at their best when they go "off script".

Clara - I thought she sounded great at first, but show seems to lack some energy and it also feels like Clara isn't involved much in cross-station activity in the way that say Jack is.

Powerdown playlist - bit of a switch off for me.

Dean - never really got into his show.  You can't like everything.

Danny - I actually really like him in that slot.

Sarah - Great show.

Wonder if Dean and Vicky would bring in any listeners in ways to create new listeners as some of Scott moves to Radio 2.

Right with PDP and with the points of Friday Night Dance too.

Yes think Dean can be but marmite and can be bit annoying. Really hope him and Vicky do good with it even with not my cup of tea. Do hope am proved wrong 

[Darren m]

Yea I get what people mean about dean but he was on breakfast on gaydio for a while so i think people must like him 

 

[BBCAaron]

4 minutes ago, Darren m said:

Yea I get what people mean about dean but he was on breakfast on gaydio for a while so i think people must like him 

 

I think given the longevity of Scott’s career and those who left. Think Aled is trying to consider and the management which always is a hard tasks how for teen or tween who may decide to tune into Radio what they want to hear and who the voices they want to have for listeners to grow up with 

[AndyK77]

7 minutes ago, Darren m said:

Yea I get what people mean about dean but he was on breakfast on gaydio for a while so i think people must like him 

 

And perhaps that's the issue for some of us.

Gaydio has a particular style and he was maybe perfect for that but needed to amend his "act" a bit for Radio 1.  Same way as say Jordan North in his current style would probably never work on a commercial station.  (He has said the same about his time at Capital).

(To be fair I'm an openly gay guy who doesn't get drag, musicals or Britney  )

[BBCAaron]

1 minute ago, AndyK77 said:

And perhaps that's the issue for some of us.

Gaydio has a particular style and he was maybe perfect for that but needed to amend his "act" a bit for Radio 1.  Same way as say Jordan North in his current style would probably never work on a commercial station.  (He has said the same about his time at Capital).

(To be fair I'm an openly gay guy who doesn't get drag, musicals or Britney  )

It would be ridiculous to expect every gay person to like the same things like drag and musicals. But Britney the woman produces good pop!

[Bluestraw]

18 hours ago, BBCAaron said:

Clara Amfo just doesn’t work on future sounds sometimes I feel she doesn’t have the conviction the confidence and the authority of the tone when you are on the mic in ways that specialist broadcasters of the show like Annie Macmanus and Zane Lowe even Huw when covered. Love to hear ones passion the full force behind the songs playing when do specialist programme.

Future Soul firm favourite of what I like on Sounds. Hard slot to do for Danny’ think he probably does alright but not one bothered to choose to listen to.

Power down playlist nightly from 10PM needs to be axed and scrapped. Dean never gelled and at point would tune into the station less.

Agree completely about Clara - she just isn't the 'musical authority'  to hold that show for me, but I don't see anything changing soon there as I have a hunch Jack (the only other current potential successor) will bypass that show and end up on Daytime somewhere.

I'm very much hoping that 'Dean and Vicky' is a significantly better show than Dean has managed. To be fair, he has gotten better, he seemed quite out of his depth in the beginning but I haven't warmed to him particularly. He was quite good covering for Scott & Chris once (with Katie?), so depending on the new duo dynamic it could be ok.

[NathanS]

21 minutes ago, Bluestraw said:

Agree completely about Clara - she just isn't the 'musical authority'  to hold that show for me, but I don't see anything changing soon there as I have a hunch Jack (the only other current potential successor) will bypass that show and end up on Daytime somewhere.

I'm very much hoping that 'Dean and Vicky' is a significantly better show than Dean has managed. To be fair, he has gotten better, he seemed quite out of his depth in the beginning but I haven't warmed to him particularly. He was quite good covering for Scott & Chris once (with Katie?), so depending on the new duo dynamic it could be ok.

My worry is that putting together a new duo on air for a weekday daytime slot is always a risk. I agree that Dean works well with a co presenter to bounce off. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I can't help but think maybe if Vicky had been on with Dean on weekends, then it wouldn't be as much of a surprising choice of replacement for Scott & Chris. As you say, Dean & Katie have covered the 1pm slot a few times. The whole relocating shows to Salford has played a big part in who they chose. It'll be interesting to see how they get on, as it's a quick rise to weekdays for Dean (a year), and even more so for Vicky (first permanent show on the station)

 

[BBCAaron]

1 hour ago, Bluestraw said:

Agree completely about Clara - she just isn't the 'musical authority'  to hold that show for me, but I don't see anything changing soon there as I have a hunch Jack (the only other current potential successor) will bypass that show and end up on Daytime somewhere.

I'm very much hoping that 'Dean and Vicky' is a significantly better show than Dean has managed. To be fair, he has gotten better, he seemed quite out of his depth in the beginning but I haven't warmed to him particularly. He was quite good covering for Scott & Chris once (with Katie?), so depending on the new duo dynamic it could be ok.

Maybe could end up being right about Jack Saunders but personally would be wrong if they overlooked Jack Saunders for the time slot. I think may said this before if he was moved to daytime even if weekend would like to see him retain a specialist slot like Huw did during his tenure on weekend afternoons.

I kind of feel if Sam & Danni join the station think Radio 1 should close the doors on co-hosts and double or triple acts for a bit at least until the number is diminished to a small few.

 

[Lee E]

I totally think the choice of Dean and Vicky to replace Scott was the fact that A. it's from Salford and B. they are new and young and have potential to be a new drive show when Greg goes, with Jordan and Vick on breakfast

They could be on daytime a good 10-14 years I would say 

I totally think it was governed by Salford though, if it had been London based, then naturally should have been Matt & Mollie although Matt is in the Grimmy/Scott/Adele zone now of being slightly too old to start a daytime show, and may just hang out on weekends and be main weekday cover, I can see them covering drive if J&V take the same leave 

He used to cover drive for Greg back in the day 

[abertom]

I think 3-5 years ago a a reasonable life span for a Radio 1 daytime show unless something goes horribly wrong. 1-2 for weekend slots (daytime) unless there’s a really good presenter like Vernon or Sara who only wants a weekend slot. 

[Ash101]

Radio 1 haven’t really had any “misses” when it comes to daytimes over the last decade or so.

When you think they bought Grimmy straight in to breakfast and he then did a stint on drive. Greg moved up to afternoons, drive and then breakfast.

RMC and Dean & Vicky feel like real risks in terms of, I can’t see them travelling around the daytime schedule. If D&V really don’t work out, it wouldn’t be a bad thing to admit it and try a new show there in a year or so.

With RMC, they’re just wasted on that slot. I did enjoy the banter and games on their evening slot, it’s just lacking so much right now. It feels overstaffed and there’s not really any point having them do such a music heavy, features limited show.

Scott & Chris always managed to get away a lot of music, but also squeeze in a lot of content.

[NathanS]

34 minutes ago, Lee E said:

I totally think the choice of Dean and Vicky to replace Scott was the fact that A. it's from Salford and B. they are new and young and have potential to be a new drive show when Greg goes, with Jordan and Vick on breakfast

They could be on daytime a good 10-14 years I would say 

I totally think it was governed by Salford though, if it had been London based, then naturally should have been Matt & Mollie although Matt is in the Grimmy/Scott/Adele zone now of being slightly too old to start a daytime show, and may just hang out on weekends and be main weekday cover, I can see them covering drive if J&V take the same leave 

He used to cover drive for Greg back in the day 

Age shouldn't always be a factor. Ricky, Melvin & Charlie are all in their late 30's/early 40's and they've progressed to daytime. The Salford thing does add an issue, but yeah it did feel like Matt missed the boat for daytime a while.

 

There was a time a few years back when the 'B' team (Adele, Dev, Alice and Matt) were just as strong as the 'A' team imo, all missed out on major daytime slots with the longevity of Greg, Scott and Grimmy (which is testement to how good they are/were). The current crop of presenters that have come through in the past 5 years through till recently are having the opposite happen due to how many presenters have left/shuffled around the schedule since Aled took charge, where they're gaining slots and progressing up the schedule quite quickly.

 

[BraveInstance]

 

1 hour ago, NathanS said:

Age shouldn't always be a factor. Ricky, Melvin & Charlie are all in their late 30's/early 40's and they've progressed to daytime. The Salford thing does add an issue, but yeah it did feel like Matt missed the boat for daytime a while.

 

There was a time a few years back when the 'B' team (Adele, Dev, Alice and Matt) were just as strong as the 'A' team imo, all missed out on major daytime slots with the longevity of Greg, Scott and Grimmy (which is testement to how good they are/were). The current crop of presenters that have come through in the past 5 years through till recently are having the opposite happen due to how many presenters have left/shuffled around the schedule since Aled took charge, where they're gaining slots and progressing up the schedule quite quickly.

 

I said it the other day but I do miss Dev and Alice on the weekends. They weren't must listen shows but when you had them on, there was no noticeable drop in quality from the A team. 

I barely listen to the radio on weekends anymore, apart from when Charlie is on Dance Anthems. Phil Taggart's chill podcast is a good listen on a Sunday (Spotify).

[vorti]

 

On 8/29/2022 at 2:04 PM, UnofficialStark said:

So what is everyone's thoughts on RMC in live lounge slot, Vick and Jordan on drive, Clara on future sounds, Sian on Powerdown Playlist, Victoria Jane's new show, Dean on weekend mid mornings and finally Danny and Sarah's new shows on Friday after one year of hearing them all?

Daytime:

I give up, I'll never like RMC's show. When they not talking or laughing over each other, they just introduce songs after songs. They still don't fit in at all. (This is about the OG trio, not the recent, mixed up versions like RM & Vicky, Melvin solo, etc).

I like Vick & Jordan mostly as they are, but would improve a couple of things:

1. Whenever one is off, let the other present solo. The whole daytime schedule feels overcrowded anyways with this much double-triple acts. We need more shows with solo presenters IMHO.
2. It feels waaaay shorter that it is. In home office my daily routine included Scott's show, then a quick nap, then going for a bike ride, and the time I'm back they're already at the Something Songs. I really missed the last half hour of Scott and still missing the 6-7 hour of drive. I'd prefer the simpler 4-7-10-1-4-7 schedule to come back.

Nighttime:

The station-wide Hottest Record right at 6 was a mistake, it's just a song after the news without any direct hype or buildup, and the weekend extension watered the feature down significantly. (A Jax Jones pop song as Danny's hottest record? Really?)

Clara: The music is great, Clara is great, but this combination still feels odd.

Powerdown Playlist: That timeslot could be used for something live, and keep the prerecorded stuff Sounds or R1 Relax exclusive.

Everyone else: I haven't heard them enough to form an opinion. Sarah's first show was amazing though! Too bad I missed it every week... for a year... maybe this week!

[BBCAaron]

11 minutes ago, vorti said:

 

Daytime:

I give up, I'll never like RMC's show. When they not talking or laughing over each other, they just introduce songs after songs. They still don't fit in at all. (This is about the OG trio, not the recent, mixed up versions like RM & Vicky, Melvin solo, etc).

I like Vick & Jordan mostly as they are, but would improve a couple of things:

1. Whenever one is off, let the other present solo. The whole daytime schedule feels overcrowded anyways with this much double-triple acts. We need more shows with solo presenters IMHO.
2. It feels waaaay shorter that it is. In home office my daily routine included Scott's show, then a quick nap, then going for a bike ride, and the time I'm back they're already at the Something Songs. I really missed the last half hour of Scott and still missing the 6-7 hour of drive. I'd prefer the simpler 4-7-10-1-4-7 schedule to come back.

Nighttime:

The station-wide Hottest Record right at 6 was a mistake, it's just a song after the news without any direct hype or buildup, and the weekend extension watered the feature down significantly. (A Jax Jones pop song as Danny's hottest record? Really?)

Clara: The music is great, Clara is great, but this combination still feels odd.

Powerdown Playlist: That timeslot could be used for something live, and keep the prerecorded stuff Sounds or R1 Relax exclusive.

Everyone else: I haven't heard them enough to form an opinion. Sarah's first show was amazing though! Too bad I missed it every week... for a year... maybe this week!

I find there is too much pop and chart songs than the levels of other stuff that Annie and Zane had with the show think I’d kept Clara Amfo in mornings but 09-11 with more music based show of new pop and mainstream songs maybe embedding the official trending chart in the show and having focus on the latest music releases and reviews, movie reviews and interviews with movie stars chats with Ali Plumb which would link in promoting his podcast and interview series embedding some of the content in the show, look at television and streaming must watches, gaming, festivals and gigs and maybe few competitions. An access all areas on culture and entertainment with in keeping the live lounge and bringing back an entertainment news bulletin 

Rickie, Melvin & Charlie do find were the wrong signings for the station and just don’t quite work I caught them few times in the evening were ok and bit better there but not ones I’d hire stuff like Club Charlie did work.

I do think three one hour Power Down Hour Playlists is bit more excessive. Haven’t listened to much of Sarah’s show as haven’t been listening to much of dance think the excessive level of sampling sometimes and remixes of dance may have lead to a break. But would be good sounds listen. Right on hottest records

[Old Codger Fan]

Sian is a great late-night presenter - I'd give her 10pm Mon-Thurs, but it would have to be live, and on the 'relaxed side', rather than restricted to just the chill stuff .......