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1 hour ago, JamTriv said:

Agreeing with Graeme here. Best new pop might've done better in the afternoon? 

Disappointing about anthems during gregs show. But oh well.

Party anthems at 3pm is not right. Most people are still in work then...?

Agree party anthems is lazy and should go and tbh traditionally the last hour/half hour on a Friday breakfast show has meant the nixtape or the golden hour so is a bit more justifiable. Also if Greg does this morning and/or Jeremy Vine or similar then he can go and pre record it.

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Although i agree it sound a bit jarring at 3pm on a Friday, and that it suited the 6-7pm slot perfectly as a warm up/compliment to Friday nights on Radio 1, i'm glad they kept it. PA's is different to the morning 'Anthems' hour. It showcases the more commercial sounding brand new dance music/up and coming DJ's that wouldn't otherwise get mainstream exposure. Obviously quite a few other factors help, but quite a few tracks/DJ's that have had early on support have gone onto success both in the clubs and on the chart. Shane Codd is a current example.

I suppose the last hour of Dance Anthems plays some of what goes out between 3 and 4pm on a Friday, plus the launch of Capital Dance (plus they now play more than just remixes of the main playlist on Capital on Fri/Sat nights). Annie Mac and co focus on the more cutting edge end of things. 

The other anthems shows i'm not much of a fan of anymore. It was much better when they launched it as Greatest Hits in 2017. Personally, i prefer hearing songs in full as opposed to being shortened and mixed into other songs. They are frequently repeated as well with how often they have anthems features (Friday 08:30-09:00, Going Home Anthems on a Thursday).

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11 minutes ago, georgeh said:

Looking at the schedule for the first week back in January, week starting 4th of Jan 
We got RMC in  for Clara 

Mat and Mollie are covering for Scot and Chris Monday 4th  and Tuesday 5th 

And Adel in for RMC. 

A sign for who will be cover for who. 

 

Wondering why Matt and  molly are in for scott and chris and not jordan 

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Here is a question for you @Lily Georgia how do they decide who covers who? do the DJs have to "book" leave like any other job, and then someone in a roster department finds cover? I assume you have to be deemed a competent to cover that slot for instance we have never seen Clara cover breakfast unless it has been part of a bigger event, or Arielle cover drive although I assume they could if they were the only option? 

Say someone like Greg decides he is having the day off "Sick" or short notice like Grimmy used to a bit, then who makes the phone calls to cover the show? 

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I used to work at a radio station (not R1, think smaller!) so I have a bit of an insight into this, although I'm sure it varies.

Where I worked, around half of the presenters were staff and half were freelancers.  Staff had to request leave and have it approved - freelancers could just say they were 'unavailable' but we would expect a reasonable amount of notice (apart from sickness) so that cover could be arranged.  At R1 I believe all of their presenters are freelance.

We would have a list of presenters who could cover each show - their suitability would be based on profile, experience, other work/commitments, so lots of factors.  There would always be a preferred cover presenter for each show, and I think you can see that at R1 certain people tend to cover certain shows regularly - often they try to find someone 'similar' to cover.

If more than one daytime presenter were off at the same time then you would also consider how the day 'sounded' in terms of different voices i.e. avoiding 3 male or 3 female presenters in a row, for example, so there was variety to the sound as you went through the day. 

Part of my job was to book presenters to cover leave but the overall decisions around who could cover each show was made by the editor - the manager in charge of the station.  I would make the phone calls to arrange short notice cover, although at weekends there would always be a manager 'on call' who could make those decisions too.

In my job, finding cover presenters was always fairly easy - it was much harder to cover a producer or newsreader who went off sick!

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5 hours ago, Lee E said:

I assume you have to be deemed a competent to cover that slot for instance we have never seen Clara cover breakfast unless it has been part of a bigger event, or Arielle cover drive although I assume they could if they were the only option?

That's pretty much it. You can't have C list presenter who used to play a lot of music during their regular show covering A level show like breakfast. As well as that, the logistics matter. For example, there's no point in having Grimmy or Scott covering breakfast if Matt and Mollie are available. That was the case 10 years or so ago when Scott was covering Chris Moyles and someone else had Scotts show or Greg James (who at the time was on afternoons) covered Scott (drivetime), but now we see it less frequently. I think this has to do with current line up, which is quite strong at the moment. Just think about it, 10 years ago the weekend line up was good, but not up to the weekday level. Edith Bowman was former daytime presenter who was demoted, same applies for Sara Cox and Vernon Kay (but still they filled in for Chris Moyles sometimes), Huw Stephens was more specialist kind of a type presenter. Now there's Adele Roberts, Jordan North, Matt and Mollie, Arielle Free. 

I think the higher bosses make a call on who covers who in case of sick producer. For example, if Greg James is sick, I think Matt and Molle will get the first call, if he's unavailable, then it's Scotts turn, after him I think Jordan North.

For Clara's show the obvious choice would be Adele Roberts and Katie Thistleton. If their unavailable, then it's Arielle Free.

For Scott, it's Matt and Mollie, Jordan North as they're quite similar presenters in their style.

For Grimmy, it's Jordan and maybe Adele or Arielle?

There are exceptions if no one's avaliable. For example, Matt Edmondson covered breakfast during Christmas period. Don't get me wrong, he was really good, it's unusual to have him without Mollie on such high profile show. This means that no one else was available without tearing up the schedule completely. 

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9 hours ago, IamNotFromUK said:

That's pretty much it. You can't have C list presenter who used to play a lot of music during their regular show covering A level show like breakfast. As well as that, the logistics matter. For example, there's no point in having Grimmy or Scott covering breakfast if Matt and Mollie are available. That was the case 10 years or so ago when Scott was covering Chris Moyles and someone else had Scotts show or Greg James (who at the time was on afternoons) covered Scott (drivetime), but now we see it less frequently. I think this has to do with current line up, which is quite strong at the moment. Just think about it, 10 years ago the weekend line up was good, but not up to the weekday level. Edith Bowman was former daytime presenter who was demoted, same applies for Sara Cox and Vernon Kay (but still they filled in for Chris Moyles sometimes), Huw Stephens was more specialist kind of a type presenter. Now there's Adele Roberts, Jordan North, Matt and Mollie, Arielle Free. 

I think the higher bosses make a call on who covers who in case of sick producer. For example, if Greg James is sick, I think Matt and Molle will get the first call, if he's unavailable, then it's Scotts turn, after him I think Jordan North.

For Clara's show the obvious choice would be Adele Roberts and Katie Thistleton. If their unavailable, then it's Arielle Free.

For Scott, it's Matt and Mollie, Jordan North as they're quite similar presenters in their style.

For Grimmy, it's Jordan and maybe Adele or Arielle?

There are exceptions if no one's avaliable. For example, Matt Edmondson covered breakfast during Christmas period. Don't get me wrong, he was really good, it's unusual to have him without Mollie on such high profile show. This means that no one else was available without tearing up the schedule completely. 

Thanks for the insight guys - What I have never understood, is why they stopped using Scott for Breakfast? I know COVID was very different and we saw him on again, but why stop using Scott in 2019 to cover Breakfast when he always has? 

Just don't get the thinking 

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58 minutes ago, Lee E said:

Thanks for the insight guys - What I have never understood, is why they stopped using Scott for Breakfast? I know COVID was very different and we saw him on again, but why stop using Scott in 2019 to cover Breakfast when he always has? 

Just don't get the thinking 

My theory but I think we could do with a ask Aled type section similar to Chrismoyles.net back in the day to confirm is possibly Scott didn’t want to do it anymore or perhaps pre pandemic there were more plans for him to be away to cover radio 2 e.g. SWITA, Sara or Zoe and if he covered Radio 1 as well he wouldn’t be on his own show very much. 

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I think it was just the way things were being moved forward. Scott had done about 20 years of Breakfast cover, which is incredible innings!

But we moved to a system of Weekday Breakfast being covered by Weekend Breakfast & Weekday Afternoons being covered by Weekend Afternoons (Dev & Alice).

The 1 cover that never makes sense to me is RMC covering Clara. They would be much more suited to covering Scott or Grimmy.

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2 hours ago, Ash101 said:

I think it was just the way things were being moved forward. Scott had done about 20 years of Breakfast cover, which is incredible innings!

But we moved to a system of Weekday Breakfast being covered by Weekend Breakfast & Weekday Afternoons being covered by Weekend Afternoons (Dev & Alice).

The 1 cover that never makes sense to me is RMC covering Clara. They would be much more suited to covering Scott or Grimmy.

The zoo format of RMC on mid-mornings does seem a bit out of kilter. I agree they'd make more sense on afternoons.

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I made similar comments the other day. I agree, mid mornings work best as a music based show, sandwiched between two feature/personality led shows. Adele, in my opinion is the best cover for Clara. She largely keeps the usual format, but adds in a few features from her usual show (when she was on early breakfast), it baffled me personally why they put them on daytime, then Adele on evenings.

RMC were brought in a few years ago to replace The 8th, and they suit that show. I can't see any benefit them moving to daytime full time anytime soon, or at all.

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Cover wise i wouldn't complain if it went something like:

 

Early Breakfast: The Friday host who is on duty that week/previously on the Friday rotation or maybe Vick Hope

Breakfast: Scott & Chris or Jordan (i think it's time he depped on breakfast, he's more than capable and i'm sure much of the audience wouldn't complain!)

Mid Morning: Adele, Arielle or Katie as secondary dep

Afternoons: M&M,

Drivetime: Split between Jordan or RMC.

Future Sounds: Jack Saunders

Weekend Breakfast & Mid morning cover could now be a way in to give the newer voices more airtime and get the audience used to them. Certain people (if anyone reads digitalspy) go on about 'new talent', this will probably be the best way to slowly transition the schedule in the coming years.

Dance Anthems will likely be left in Arielle's hands when Charlie's off.

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21 hours ago, abertom said:

My theory but I think we could do with a ask Aled type section similar to Chrismoyles.net back in the day to confirm is possibly Scott didn’t want to do it anymore or perhaps pre pandemic there were more plans for him to be away to cover radio 2 e.g. SWITA, Sara or Zoe and if he covered Radio 1 as well he wouldn’t be on his own show very much. 

I would love an ask Aled chat, I wonder if he'd do a zoom meeting for an hour? 

I had never thought that they had plans like that for Scott - he hasn't covered much Radio 2 since the summer? but yes, maybe the plan was to have him as the "main" R2 cover pre Covid 

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1 hour ago, NathanS said:

Cover wise i wouldn't complain if it went something like:

 

Early Breakfast: The Friday host who is on duty that week/previously on the Friday rotation or maybe Vick Hope

Breakfast: Scott & Chris or Jordan (i think it's time he depped on breakfast, he's more than capable and i'm sure much of the audience wouldn't complain!)

Mid Morning: Adele, Arielle or Katie as secondary dep

Afternoons: M&M,

Drivetime: Split between Jordan or RMC.

Future Sounds: Jack Saunders

Weekend Breakfast & Mid morning cover could now be a way in to give the newer voices more airtime and get the audience used to them. Certain people (if anyone reads digitalspy) go on about 'new talent', this will probably be the best way to slowly transition the schedule in the coming years.

Dance Anthems will likely be left in Arielle's hands when Charlie's off.

This seems pretty sound. I like the idea of early breakfast being covered by a previous months Friday DJ to give them a further outing. Adele or Arielle for Clara is a must.

I doubt Jordan will do Breakfast for the simple fact he’s clearly the next in line for it? (Years down the line of course..) but Greg never covered Breakfast.

I’d like Jordan & Grimmy to swap full time. With RMC covering drive!

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On 1/14/2021 at 11:23 PM, Lee E said:

Thanks for the insight guys - What I have never understood, is why they stopped using Scott for Breakfast? I know COVID was very different and we saw him on again, but why stop using Scott in 2019 to cover Breakfast when he always has? 

Just don't get the thinking 

I think it's time to move on. You can't have a DJ who's out of demographics and doing quite a lot of work on Radio 2 covering for Radio 1 breakfast. I don't say it won't happen, but I think he's not the first choice by now. There's nothing bad about this - as someone said, Scott's on Radio 1 for 20 years and sooner or later it's time for a change. I'm sure he'll get a gig on daytime or weekend Radio 2 easily. As i'm not from the UK and wasn't very much familiar with Terry Wogan till now, I did a lot of research on him recent days. He left Radio 2 breakfast being 70 and Ken Bruce is 69 now. I think we'll see him leaving anytime soon and Scott has a big chance to take over Kens' or Steve Wrights' (who's 67) show. It would be a promotion for Scott in a way as Radio 2 is a bigger station and it's getting more modern everyday.

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13 hours ago, IamNotFromUK said:

I think it's time to move on. You can't have a DJ who's out of demographics and doing quite a lot of work on Radio 2 covering for Radio 1 breakfast. I don't say it won't happen, but I think he's not the first choice by now. There's nothing bad about this - as someone said, Scott's on Radio 1 for 20 years and sooner or later it's time for a change. I'm sure he'll get a gig on daytime or weekend Radio 2 easily. As i'm not from the UK and wasn't very much familiar with Terry Wogan till now, I did a lot of research on him recent days. He left Radio 2 breakfast being 70 and Ken Bruce is 69 now. I think we'll see him leaving anytime soon and Scott has a big chance to take over Kens' or Steve Wrights' (who's 67) show. It would be a promotion for Scott in a way as Radio 2 is a bigger station and it's getting more modern everyday.

Fair enough - But who then fills his shoes on R1?  He is, after all, R1's equivalent of Steve Wright - a 'Mr Dependable', who most demographics can get along with ...

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1 minute ago, Lily Georgia said:

Danny Howard is covering Annie's show on Friday 19th February.

Sarah Story is covering Danny's show.  She previously covered Annie's show on New Year's Day.

 

Actually, Annie has all of next week off:

 

Monday - Sian Eleri 6-8pm

Tuesday & Wednesday - Jack Saunders 6-8pm, Jess Iszatt 10-12 (Jess covered the Chillest Show at Xmas)

Thursday - Jack Saunders 6-8pm, Nelson Hylton 10-12 (Nelson covered the Rock Show at Xmas)

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