Capital Summertime Ball 2024

[Guy]

I'm old enough to remember how Ibiza weekend finished Lia I'Anson's Radio 1 tenure 

[xxladybarefootxx]

3 minutes ago, Guy said:

I'm old enough to remember how Ibiza weekend finished Lia I'Anson's Radio 1 tenure 

I’m intrigued, what happened with Lisa I’anson? 

[AndyK77]

11 minutes ago, BBCAaron said:

I think it wasn’t a proper dig it didn’t seem like an intentional offence might bit sticking your foot into it. But think Arielle was just saying honestly what she thought about the song which I mean at the radio 1’s dance weekend the playlist should be set to a higher bar than that Barney horse girl thing. All Charlie had to do was mute the mics and play the music. She’ didn’t have to address anything on air. 

Charlie did rise and give lip back on air and needed to respect a difference of an opinion. Presenters need to be able to say if they find a song sounds bad. As there’s definately needs to step things up a bit.

I think there are two things here.

 

1. Should Charlie have responded?  I don't know but I know that when things are happening live any of us can respond.  The important thing is that Charlie moved on very quickly.

2. This simply isn't about Arielle's opinion.  She was that drunk friend being a pain in the butt but live on one of Europe's biggest radio station.  Had she been sober (a) she probably wouldn't have crossed that line of criticising the choice of a fellow presenter live on air and (b) it wouldn't have been expressed that way.

 

 

[BBCAaron]

Just now, xxladybarefootxx said:

I’m intrigued, what happened with Lisa I’anson? 

Googled it so might save you a search think a bit of a no-show situation. I never heard of her before a minute ago. https://www.theguardian.com/music/2011/jun/15/lisa-anson-sacked-after-ibiza

[AndyK77]

12 minutes ago, Guy said:

I'm old enough to remember how Ibiza weekend finished Lia I'Anson's Radio 1 tenure 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/145664.stm

[BBCAaron]

1 minute ago, AndyK77 said:

I think there are two things here.

 

1. Should Charlie have responded?  I don't know but I know that when things are happening live any of us can respond.  The important thing is that Charlie moved on very quickly.

2. This simply isn't about Arielle's opinion.  She was that drunk friend being a pain in the butt but live on one of Europe's biggest radio station.  Had she been sober (a) she probably wouldn't have crossed that line of criticising the choice of a fellow presenter live on air and (b) it wouldn't have been expressed that way.

 

 

I think the point of had she been sober and said the same things and that wouldn’t been a problem. Then thats no problem I think she could’ve taken it on the chin and once sober up can just move on from it. She wasn’t that much of a pain in a butt like it or loathe it. It will just look a bit sterile to be concerned with presenter looking like a drunken friend. She didn’t criticise Charlie in a personal choice. She could’ve done much better than playing crap and think presenters should be able to say what they think about song choices. I think for Europe’s biggest radio station could be playing top rate songs

[xxladybarefootxx]

7 minutes ago, AndyK77 said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/145664.stm

Wow, thank you - not wanting to take this off topic but love the 1998 BBC vibe giving a mix of professional look with tabloid-style headline!

[AndyK77]

18 minutes ago, AndyK77 said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/145664.stm

Basically - they didn't sack her then but her contract wasn't renewed https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Matthew+Wright+column%3A+Lisa+sacked..+again%3B+SKY+HOST+GOES+AWOL+BEFORE...-a060290636

[anothernerd]

7 hours ago, BBCAaron said:

On an other topic the Mirror is reporting that Calvin Harris and Vick are set be married soon would she become Vick Wilex?

Calvin Harris is dating Vick Hope? 
I’m so out of touch. I’ll be tuning into radio 4 tomorrow!

[R1Fan1]

58 minutes ago, anothernerd said:

Calvin Harris is dating Vick Hope? 
I’m so out of touch. I’ll be tuning into radio 4 tomorrow!

In fairness she only started making genuine references to it recently.

[Old Codger Fan]

Just tracked back on this thread to hear the actual incident.

Pretty entertaining radio, albeit in a way nobody would plan for.

Weird shift of attitude from the host - it's all welcome fun until the moment that she gets criticised - then all of a sudden it's the worst thing in the world.

[brucard]

1 hour ago, Old Codger Fan said:

Just tracked back on this thread to hear the actual incident.

Pretty entertaining radio, albeit in a way nobody would plan for.

Weird shift of attitude from the host - it's all welcome fun until the moment that she gets criticised - then all of a sudden it's the worst thing in the world.

I think Arielle took it too far and as Charlie rightfully said it was a lack of respect to her. Charlie's shift of attitude was fair enough, it became less of a joke and more of a criticism of her music choices - I didn't find arielle's joke funny in the slightest and clearly neither did Charlie and I respect her for standing up for herself.

[AndyK77]

This story indicates a bit more of the background 

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/11035428/bbc-heads-will-roll-after-dj-pulled-off-air/

 

It seems to suggest that Charlie didn't really want Arielle on air in that condition.

[Old Codger Fan]

28 minutes ago, AndyK77 said:

This story indicates a bit more of the background 

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/11035428/bbc-heads-will-roll-after-dj-pulled-off-air/

 

It seems to suggest that Charlie didn't really want Arielle on air in that condition.

If Charlie was persuaded to let her on in the first place, against her better judgment, then that does put things in a different light ...

[BBCAaron]

2 hours ago, brucard said:

I think Arielle took it too far and as Charlie rightfully said it was a lack of respect to her. Charlie's shift of attitude was fair enough, it became less of a joke and more of a criticism of her music choices - I didn't find arielle's joke funny in the slightest and clearly neither did Charlie and I respect her for standing up for herself.

It wasn’t a joke. Arielle was just expressing her opinion about the music choices which she was right about and should be able to speak about it. If presenters can’t share their opinions like that radio 1 and even Charlie needs to lighten up and take things on the chin.

[anothernerd]

1 hour ago, BBCAaron said:

It wasn’t a joke. Arielle was just expressing her opinion about the music choices which she was right about and should be able to speak about it. If presenters can’t share their opinions like that radio 1 and even Charlie needs to lighten up and take things on the chin.

I doubt was a proper opinion. She was out of it .

[DC]

I'm also old enough to remember the Lisa L'anson thing, that was far bigger than this.

I don't mind this really, it's a small telling off and move on. Radio 1 has been ever since I've listened, too nicey nicey at times. Now more than ever. That's why I loved when Moyles for instance back in the day basically said what he thought sometimes about a song. It was entertaining.

No chance in hell every DJ loves every song on the playlist. Not everything is brilliant to everyone as its portrayed on air sometimes. Not saying slag tunes off every show, but if there's something you just don't get the appeal of it makes good radio to say what you think.

[AndyK77]

31 minutes ago, anothernerd said:

I doubt was a proper opinion. She was out of it .

And how she went about it.

"Sorry, still not sold on that one" would be fine.  It was a drunken rant made a bit personal.  As I said earlier in the thread - the PITA drunk friend that is starting to annoy you on a night out.

To repeat - if it's only what happened on-air it's a straightforward wrist slap and that's it gone.

[BBCAaron]

9 minutes ago, AndyK77 said:

And how she went about it.

"Sorry, still not sold on that one" would be fine.  It was a drunken rant made a bit personal.  As I said earlier in the thread - the PITA drunk friend that is starting to annoy you on a night out.

To repeat - if it's only what happened on-air it's a straightforward wrist slap and that's it gone.

Stop speculating it wasn't personal a presenter is allowed to not be sold on that one and shouldn’t have to watch their mouth on that one Charlie shouldve taken it on the chin.

[AndyK77]

4 minutes ago, BBCAaron said:

Stop speculating it wasn't personal a presenter is allowed to not be sold on that one and shouldn’t have to watch their mouth on that one Charlie shouldve taken it on the chin.

But it was personal!  

"Sorry not sold on that one" isn't personal.

The whole "I thought better of you" and about to go on about it is personal.

In the workplace there is a professional way of expressing an opinion and an unprofessional one.

[brucard]

23 minutes ago, AndyK77 said:

But it was personal!  

"Sorry not sold on that one" isn't personal.

The whole "I thought better of you" and about to go on about it is personal.

In the workplace there is a professional way of expressing an opinion and an unprofessional one.

Completely agree - it was an unprofessional way to express her opinion and Charlie had every right to react the way she did. 

[BBCAaron]

15 minutes ago, brucard said:

Completely agree - it was an unprofessional way to express her opinion and Charlie had every right to react the way she did. 

If you think it’s unprofessional to express an opinion you might as well to ask the BBC to sack the lot and churn out artificial intelligence programmed radio shows. It’s a music station an entertainment one and presenters are allowed to express opinions on the music they play is it unprofessional for Jack Saunders or Clara Amfo to express a positive opinion on a song or it’s only the bad ones.

If you can’t say you’d expect to hear some better music, as all she was saying she’d expect Charlie to be playing better music than that horse girl song. What can she say? Charlie just needs to loosen up and not to make a thing about it.

 

[xxladybarefootxx]

I personally still think it was the way it was said rather than what was said.  To show up drunk is unprofessional, and to interrupt and disrespect a colleague while they are trying to present a show is rude.

Scott used to champion some awfully questionable pop songs, just for the fun of it. Rebecca Black - Friday being one example. It was a terrible song, but it was a laugh.   Chris would also often throw subtle shade at Scott's bangers choices, so negative opinions on songs are definitely allowed, but I think Arielle's tone was out of order and brought down the mood of what Charlie was trying to make an uplifting dance show and a cheesey fun song that she wanted to play.

Even Zane Lowe respected Scott's love for cheesey pop so much that he had a hand in the whole playing out the entire Britney album stunt, I'm sure that music wasn't to Zane's taste, but then nobody was asking him to play it on his show.

[brucard]

1 hour ago, BBCAaron said:

If you think it’s unprofessional to express an opinion you might as well to ask the BBC to sack the lot and churn out artificial intelligence programmed radio shows. It’s a music station an entertainment one and presenters are allowed to express opinions on the music they play is it unprofessional for Jack Saunders or Clara Amfo to express a positive opinion on a song or it’s only the bad ones.

If you can’t say you’d expect to hear some better music, as all she was saying she’d expect Charlie to be playing better music than that horse girl song. What can she say? Charlie just needs to loosen up and not to make a thing about it.

 

I see what you're saying - of course we all have our right to an opinion and so does Arielle but it was more about the way she said it rather than what she said as ladybarefoot posted above. It came across as rude/disrespectful and that's why I feel quite strongly about this.

Also to say Charlie should loosen up and not make a thing about it is a bit unfair imo. Charlie can feel however she likes - no one can tell her otherwise as that's her feelings and she's entitled to them. If she felt offended etc then that's her right, you may disagree but no one can tell her how to feel/react.

[BBCAaron]

3 hours ago, brucard said:

I see what you're saying - of course we all have our right to an opinion and so does Arielle but it was more about the way she said it rather than what she said as ladybarefoot posted above. It came across as rude/disrespectful and that's why I feel quite strongly about this.

Also to say Charlie should loosen up and not make a thing about it is a bit unfair imo. Charlie can feel however she likes - no one can tell her otherwise as that's her feelings and she's entitled to them. If she felt offended etc then that's her right, you may disagree but no one can tell her how to feel/react.

She’s an autonomous being so no one can tell her how to feel or react thats nature of being human. But you got to be able to take a bit of honesty and make sure people can talk honestly to you. Charlie did over react. If she didn’t brush things of it kind of adds to the drama and conflict that needs to move forward. It wasn’t that disrespectful and not expected to be nicey nicey all the time. Atleast Arielle wasn’t faking anything.