The eighth floor

[Chippy]

Claudia Winkleman.

Nobody is going to say they expected that one.

With Claudia presenting, it looks like there will be big changes to the shows format, maybe more primetime also?

http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/blog/article/413535/

[MrDoovdeHaxorz]

just listening to an interview with her now on 5Live, she says they're not looking to change the timeslot, but that it may be a slight change in format as she'll have other crtics on and stuff, definitely can't say that was expected, though on Friday's Wittertainment (5Live's film show) Mark Kermode had a small rant saying he WASN'T going to be presenting it and in a way wouldn't WANT to because his opinions are mainstream enough (stuff like he hated Avatar and champions small movies). Would be nice to see him in one of the guest critic spots though, as he does good work on things like The Culture Show on TV and the man talks a lot of sense.

another piece about it

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8593066.stm

[the_grove]

So...Winkleman it is. If she is taking over Film 2010, she might leave Radio 2. Jo Whiley was in for her at least twice. Jo Whiley won't get any promotion at Radio 1. So might leave Radio 1 to take over Winkleman's arts show. Can anyone see this happening?

[MrDoovdeHaxorz]

yeah that would make sense, however much Whiley seems to be making a break for TV at times (Panorama, appearing on The Gadget Show etc)

[KingTutsWWH]

Simply an observation, but I just find it interesting that Barry Norman, Johnathan Ross and Claudia Winkleman are all Jewish and either hail from, or live in North London. That's all.

I reckon she'll do a really good job on Film 2010, but hope she drops a little of her ditzy 'Strictly' personality.

It will be interesting.

[Lee.]

johnathon ross is jewish i really didnt know that

[Chippy]

He isn't, his wife is though.

[KingTutsWWH]

Apologies. Chippy appears to be be correct, but take one look at his wife Jane and tell me she doesn't have any say in how the family's religious affairs are in order/connections. Scary, formidable, impressive woman. She is certainly someone I look up to.

[Jono]

Claudia is a lovely lady. I think she'll do well on it.

[The Stig]

I've got to be honest I don't watch it now and sticking Claudia Winkleman on it isn't going to do a great deal to make me watch it.

[DarkAngelMJH]

Well I can't see me liking it with Claudia presenting it, will give it a go though if I remember it's on.

[the_grove]

Simply an observation, but I just find it interesting that Barry Norman, Johnathan Ross and Claudia Winkleman are all Jewish and either hail from, or live in North London. That's all.

The North London thing is because North London is popular with wealthy/media/wealthy media people. Edith and Moyles live their, too.

[MrDoovdeHaxorz]

Nothing wrong with North London, I'd love to be able to afford to live there. Even South London would do as I've already lived there.

[E*F*4L]

so the dumbing down of the BBC continues, nothing against Claudia, but she is/was terrible on the Oscars program she does/did for Sky the last few years, never had her down as any sort of movie fan either, the Oscars show she fluffed her way through getting actors names wrong & movies they were in, she is TO much of a presenter who just presents programs, she has no in-depth interest or knowledge of the subject other than she is doing a show about it, so god knows what the reviews will be like, anything that is style over substance will be the best thing ever (amazin )

why didn't they choose someone who actually likes movies slowly starting to get pissed off with the BBC now !

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[MrDoovdeHaxorz]

she has no in-depth interest or knowledge of the subject other than she is doing a show about it, so god knows what the reviews will be like, anything that is style over substance will be the best thing ever

Seriously, do a listen again to Richard Bacon's 5Live show from Monday. They had an interview with her... she said she wasn't interested as much in doing stuff like Strictly Boring and wanted to do something to do with movies for a long time. She admits there are areas/genres she's not strong on, but you are completely wrong in saying she has no interest or knowledge. She even lives pretty much next to an Odeon and goes to it regularly.

Don't base a judgement on stuff she's done before when she's not really been given chance to do stuff about films before.

Also, weren't half of Wossy's reviews basically that anything that's style over substance is the best thing ever? Last time I remember seeing anything otherwise was when Bazza Norman was still doing Film, for serious reviews that aren't just mainstream, you need to watch Kermode's segments on The Culture Show instead.

[Chippy]

She presented the late night Oscars show on Sky this year. Wasn't too impressed, talked a lot of bull.

[E*F*4L]

Seriously, do a listen again to Richard Bacon's 5Live show from Monday. They had an interview with her... she said she wasn't interested as much in doing stuff like Strictly Boring and wanted to do something to do with movies for a long time. She admits there are areas/genres she's not strong on, but you are completely wrong in saying she has no interest or knowledge. She even lives pretty much next to an Odeon and goes to it regularly.

Don't base a judgement on stuff she's done before when she's not really been given chance to do stuff about films before.

Also, weren't half of Wossy's reviews basically that anything that's style over substance is the best thing ever? Last time I remember seeing anything otherwise was when Bazza Norman was still doing Film, for serious reviews that aren't just mainstream, you need to watch Kermode's segments on The Culture Show instead.

just because someone likes movies doesn't mean they can critique them or review them for people who will have to pay to go & watch movies, just like all them football fans who think that they are better managers than their teams current one, also what i did find interesting is this bit ;

"And also, just so people don't panic, it's not just me, because that would be horrifying. So it will be brilliant critics and all kinds of people sharing their knowledge, because I'm rubbish on horror."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8593066.stm

so it seems that she won't be reviewing movies then, other critics will be doing that then, meaning that you will never truly know how good a movie is as it takes time to get to know & read between the lines of what certain reviewers think, she is to much of a fan by the sounds of it & everything will be "amazing" & "fantastic", i don't have a problem with Claudia it's just that she is just a presenter nothing more, them Oscar shows she does are terrible this year more so than last in fact, so what she lives next door to a cinema, Wossy has one in his house, as for Wossy & style over substance, well everyone knows he is a huge comic book fan so you take this on board when he reviews something, just in the same was with James King & his love of horror films, Kermode & his love of French black & white movies

as i said in my letter to the BBC head of programing it would be good to have a female on the show as female audience figures are on the rise but having a lone female on the show will put males off , a lot of them (i think) there are loads of movie review sites & other critics so movie fans will go elsewhere, simple as that thus the viewing figures will plummet.

its basically sounding just like a chat show with guests & insiders from the movie world spieling off the latest gossip.

[MrDoovdeHaxorz]

just because someone likes movies doesn't mean they can critique them or review them for people who will have to pay to go & watch movies, just like all them football fans who think that they are better managers than their teams current one, also what i did find interesting is this bit ;

Umm I was replying to your quote where you say she had no INTEREST in movies... given the above statement, that is CLEARLY not true, and let's leave critiquing her ability to review until we've SEEN her doing it, eh?

I never claimed she would be good at reviewing. I doubt Edith Bowman, good as she is, could do better and saying Claudia won't be doing ANY reviews is just ludicrous, but she does admit there's genres where she will leave the reviews up to others...

[Bumble_85]

having a lone female on the show will put males off

... Really?

[Jono]

... Really?

Yeah. I listen to Edith Bowman's show and switch off promptly. He's right.

[E*F*4L]

... Really?

well yeah, i think it will, most men won't take a woman's advice or opinion of a movie seriously, i could be wrong though, however most of the comments on various newspaper sites & movie sites are not liking her appointment :/

aww come on Jono, everyone knows you love a bit of the Bowman

[The Stig]

Yeah. I listen to Edith Bowman's show and switch off promptly. He's right.

Ha ha! Brilliant!

[Nik B.]

well yeah, i think it will, most men won't take a woman's advice or opinion of a movie seriously

Nice! you've just achieved the "How dumb was that, Level 2" Award.

[The Stig]

well yeah, i think it will, most men won't take a woman's advice or opinion of a movie seriously

My female A Level Film and Cinematography teacher who has a Honours Degree in Film Studies would beg to differ.

[E*F*4L]

My female A Level Film and Cinematography teacher who has a Honours Degree in Film Studies would beg to differ.

well at least she knows something about movies, unlike Winkelman.

all i'm saying is that i think the viewing figures will fall because of her gender, the majority of people are not liking the decision, i really don't care to much because i very much doubt i will watch it, nothing wrong with Winkelman but i would rather have someone other than a general tv presenter reviewing movies on the bbc's flagship movie show, there again maybe men will like to see Winkelman on the show acting her usually flirtatious self so that can crack one off whilst listening to her being random about the latest rom-com & the figures will go up.