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NathanS

NathanS

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1 hour ago, onlyME said:

Tanks on Jordan's lawn? Perhaps it is a one-week move to keep the music and chat flowing while they're fighting Capital.

Thing is though, unless they're already over their quota and have had permission to make permanent changes, they can't just cut back on news without making up the minutes elsewhere. There was a week a couple of years ago where the first bulliten of the day never went out for some reason.. so they made up for it with an extra bulliten during Vick & Jordan's show at 5pm.

R1Fan1

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1 hour ago, NathanS said:

Thing is though, unless they're already over their quota and have had permission to make permanent changes, they can't just cut back on news without making up the minutes elsewhere. There was a week a couple of years ago where the first bulliten of the day never went out for some reason.. so they made up for it with an extra bulliten during Vick & Jordan's show at 5pm.

That was because early breakfast was cancelled for that week.

Its interesting that they’ve been able to take that time off, unless they’re planning to put it back on at some stage; they missed 2 bulletins in 2021 (because of the death of Prince Philip and technical issues) and they were under their quota.

BBCAaron

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21 minutes ago, R1Fan1 said:

That was because early breakfast was cancelled for that week.

Its interesting that they’ve been able to take that time off, unless they’re planning to put it back on at some stage; they missed 2 bulletins in 2021 (because of the death of Prince Philip and technical issues) and they were under their quota.

I mean with a death of someone in the immediate circle of the royal family as happened with Phillip and the Queen died the station became a news service effectively so had already been excused from that as meeting that quota in that time.

BBCAaron

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2 hours ago, NathanS said:

Thing is though, unless they're already over their quota and have had permission to make permanent changes, they can't just cut back on news without making up the minutes elsewhere. There was a week a couple of years ago where the first bulliten of the day never went out for some reason.. so they made up for it with an extra bulliten during Vick & Jordan's show at 5pm.

Yes, to be honest it’s where the BBCs faults lie thinking they have to be in competition with their commercial rivals. But I do think Jordan on capital brings bigger competition and rivalry as he comes across more relatable and down to earth than James. Sometimes think Greg James can almost be forcing a sense of humour and entertainment.

IamNotFromUK

IamNotFromUK

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I have almost no doubt it is because of Jordan North starting at Capital. I mean most commercial radio stations have block of ads + news at the start of the hour and Radio 1 obviously wants to start playing music ahead of them. It can't be a coincidence that this change happened at the same time when rival radio station starts its new breakfast show and the next week the change is gone.

The main question is how they will meet the quota, as adding 5pm bulletin won't be enough.

NathanS

NathanS

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4 hours ago, lochnessa said:

Has there been any talk/explanation why Calum has been on in the afternoon this week and if this is "permanent"?

 

Tbf, Calum does cover the main newsbeat and afternoon bullitens on occasion with someone else covering the mornings. presumably Priya Rai/Pete Allison are unavailable this week.

 

Fran

Fran

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5 hours ago, lochnessa said:

Has there been any talk/explanation why Calum has been on in the afternoon this week and if this is "permanent"?

 

44 minutes ago, NathanS said:

Tbf, Calum does cover the main newsbeat and afternoon bullitens on occasion with someone else covering the mornings. presumably Priya Rai/Pete Allison are unavailable this week.

 

Lots of people including Calum have been filling in for Pria Rai this year as Pria has been filling in for Ankur Desai on Asian Network since January.

And what

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The BBC trying to compete with the commercial sector by reducing its News output seems to be wrong on many levels

One of the latest bad decisions Aled seems to be making recently

Bluestraw

Bluestraw

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1 minute ago, And what said:

The BBC trying to compete with the commercial sector by reducing its News output seems to be wrong on many levels

One of the latest bad decisions Aled seems to be making recently

As per the exact same discussion on the DS forums... This decision makes sense as a limited change to counter the new Capital breakfast show, and aside from the poorly-judged risk he took with Danny his tenure as head of R1 has been good.

coffeeandgin

coffeeandgin

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Posted this over on DS but while I'm sure there are probably reasons behind this it's weird optics how easily Radio 1 were able to cut time off Newsbeat this week purely it seems for a petty tit-for-tat gesture at Capital's new show but then weren't prepared to show any level of flexibility with reducing Newsbeat’s length a few weeks back when Mollie was supposed to finish their Comic Relief challenge for the day at around 5.45pm (with the DJs all but asking to delay Newsbeat).

I guess the issue with the 5.45pm Newsbeat is that it also airs on 1Xtra and Asian Network but surely you could still air those as normal on those two stations and then do a separate Radio 1 edition later. They've certainly done that before with the half past the hour bulletins.

Fran

Fran

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2 hours ago, coffeeandgin said:

Posted this over on DS but while I'm sure there are probably reasons behind this it's weird optics how easily Radio 1 were able to cut time off Newsbeat this week purely it seems for a petty tit-for-tat gesture at Capital's new show but then weren't prepared to show any level of flexibility with reducing Newsbeat’s length a few weeks back when Mollie was supposed to finish their Comic Relief challenge for the day at around 5.45pm (with the DJs all but asking to delay Newsbeat).

I guess the issue with the 5.45pm Newsbeat is that it also airs on 1Xtra and Asian Network but surely you could still air those as normal on those two stations and then do a separate Radio 1 edition later. They've certainly done that before with the half past the hour bulletins.

Yes they normally do this on Breakfast - sometimes Greg failed to opt in then there will be a separate one after a song.

Fran

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And they told Radio 4’s Feedback that it was an ‘experiment’ to ‘look at the best way to serve young listeners’ but reaffirmed that 280 hours commitment.

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