The eighth floor

[Tom.]

I hope one day you'll read what's there and not what you want to be there.

[E*F*4L]

awwww lets all leave the Fearne hate can we

[Jugalug]

I hope one day you'll read what's there and not what you want to be there.

You're suggesting it is her fault that she receives abuse from the public. This is ridiculous.

[KingTutsWWH]

I don't think Fearne deserves her current spot on Radio 1. I saw the word 'commitment' in someone's post above. How 'commited' was she to The Chart Show? What percentage of shows was Reggie flying solo, when she was supposed to be there? Hmm.

I find her whole attitude incredibly patronising. She is also pretty shouty and over enthusiastic in a rather false manner.

Constructive criticism. I do feel sorry for her, however, for receiving personally abusive comments, texts and emails from morons who can't express themselves properly.

[MrDoovdeHaxorz]

I think in terms of committed, she IS committed - to her CAREER, but not necessarily solely to the BBC... and as I don't see a golden lock on her contract ala Graham Norton, Wossy or others, I see no reason why she SHOULDN'T go off and do other things to further her career really.

If she really doesn't 'deserve' her Radio1 spot (and quite honestly I think if she didn't deserve the spot, she wouldn't be there at all, so I don't see the logic of that particular argument as rarely is any reason for her not deserving the spot actually given), someone suggest some NEW talent who would, as we don't want to be dredging up certain DJs until they're old enough to be grandparents of most of the target audience (Only John Peel could really pull that off, and maybe Moyles will be able to if he stays at Radio1 that long, which I doubt he will do. I know Westwood's over 50 now but he's used more as a stooge presenter and butt of jokes rather than as a serious presenter).

[KingTutsWWH]

sara Cox would be ideal. *runs away and hides*.

[MrDoovdeHaxorz]

Nothing 'new' about her, in any sense of the word...

Maybe that's the reason Sara makes me :sleep: so much... but to me she fits all the criticism people throw at Fearne about being falsely overenthusiastic etc... remember she only got the breakfast show because of her mate Zoe Ball and she LOST a shedload of listeners, yeah great DJ that

Sod it, I've TRIED to understand these reasons people like Cox but I just can't, it's still more than the Fearne critics have tried to do though from what I can see and the fact is Radio1 must be happy with her listener figures, I think a lot of people just get on her back because she hasn't reached the dizzy heights of Moyles and Mills and because they weren't happy with losing Jo Whiley (I wasn't really either, by the way,but I can see why she had to move and it turns out from recent reports even she felt it was the right time).

[Jugalug]

I think liking Sara Cox is too much of a subjective thing for us to be able to 'explain'. Maybe... you know... accept it? I accept that many like Fearne, I've accepted that she was a good move a year ago.

[MrDoovdeHaxorz]

There's a difference when Fearne fans have to put up with the constant criticism of the haters, often unfounded (the 'facts' that get stated often turning out to be rumours) or just repetitive... a lot of them don't seem to have 'accepted' that people like Fearne (you seem to be an exception to this). I have accepted it in a way, otherwise I wouldn't even be trying to understand it.

[Tom.]

sara Cox would be ideal.

I really like sara, i think her slightly wacky sense of humour is brilliant, and her story telling is good. I never listened to her on breakfast- too young, but i find it hard to think of why so many listeners would jump ship unless she's changed massively since.

The next RAJAR's may be quite telling of Sara as she will have done quite a bit of the work...

[TheEpicPlum]

This may sound really stupid.. But why does Fearne have 'haters'? I mean, of course there is always gunna be a few people that don't get you for everyone, but what's the matter with Fearne?

[-KAT-]

Hi this is my first post and dont want to say anything to cause any problems but regarding Fearne, I admire her business savvy attitude and ambition and of course noone deserves abuse and hatred. However I have never felt that her presenting skills were superior to anyone else on the station. I think that presenters such as Scott have desired a career in radio from a young age and those such as Greg James committed themselves to student radio and used thier talent and determination to make headway into the radio industry and annie mac worked her way up from the bottom as a BA for Zane Lowe. I think it is this desire and pure passion that makes thier shows so good and potentially stand out from someone like fearne's, whose passion appears to lie with tv as she often prioritises it above her radio show. Maybe if the mid morning slot had been given to someone with a background in and passion for radio they would have been more 'grateful' for the opportunity and put their all into the job and prioritised it, whereas sometimes I get the impression that Fearne sees it as another string to her bow and would drop it if something better came along. Sorry rambling post and its just my opinion but I do think that passion talent and loyalty is sometimes more important than being the right age and a household name.

[KingTutsWWH]

Hi this is my first post and dont want to say anything to cause any problems but regarding Fearne, I admire her business savvy attitude and ambition and of course noone deserves abuse and hatred. However I have never felt that her presenting skills were superior to anyone else on the station. I think that presenters such as Scott have desired a career in radio from a young age and those such as Greg James committed themselves to student radio and used thier talent and determination to make headway into the radio industry and annie mac worked her way up from the bottom as a BA for Zane Lowe. I think it is this desire and pure passion that makes thier shows so good and potentially stand out from someone like fearne's, whose passion appears to lie with tv as she often prioritises it above her radio show. Maybe if the mid morning slot had been given to someone with a background in and passion for radio they would have been more 'grateful' for the opportunity and put their all into the job and prioritised it, whereas sometimes I get the impression that Fearne sees it as another string to her bow and would drop it if something better came along. Sorry rambling post and its just my opinion but I do think that passion talent and loyalty is sometimes more important than being the right age and a household name.

Excellent first post. I couldn't have put it much better myself.

[-KAT-]

Thanks! I dont want to sound negative towards Fearne but sometimes I think she does take her position for granted a little bit, thats all.

[MrDoovdeHaxorz]

I really like sara, i think her slightly wacky sense of humour is brilliant, and her story telling is good. I never listened to her on breakfast- too young, but i find it hard to think of why so many listeners would jump ship unless she's changed massively since.

The next RAJAR's may be quite telling of Sara as she will have done quite a bit of the work...

but I don't think time another DJ fills in is taken into account?

This may sound really stupid.. But why does Fearne have 'haters'? I mean, of course there is always gunna be a few people that don't get you for everyone, but what's the matter with Fearne?

Exactly my point.

Hi this is my first post and dont want to say anything to cause any problems but regarding Fearne, I admire her business savvy attitude and ambition and of course noone deserves abuse and hatred. However I have never felt that her presenting skills were superior to anyone else on the station. I think that presenters such as Scott have desired a career in radio from a young age and those such as Greg James committed themselves to student radio and used thier talent and determination to make headway into the radio industry and annie mac worked her way up from the bottom as a BA for Zane Lowe. I think it is this desire and pure passion that makes thier shows so good and potentially stand out from someone like fearne's, whose passion appears to lie with tv as she often prioritises it above her radio show. Maybe if the mid morning slot had been given to someone with a background in and passion for radio they would have been more 'grateful' for the opportunity and put their all into the job and prioritised it, whereas sometimes I get the impression that Fearne sees it as another string to her bow and would drop it if something better came along. Sorry rambling post and its just my opinion but I do think that passion talent and loyalty is sometimes more important than being the right age and a household name.

So how did Fearne start out then? That's a good set of points and all but we have to remember she has been on radio1 for some years herself, so what if she started in TV? I don't think Radio1 would have put her straight on Radio1 with NO Radio experience, not even as part of a duo.

Also I agree she's not the best presenter on the station, I just think we've had far worse and that doesn't seem to have been recognised.

[-KAT-]

So how did Fearne start out then? That's a good set of points and all but we have to remember she has been on radio1 for some years herself, so what if she started in TV? I don't think Radio1 would have put her straight on Radio1 with NO Radio experience, not even as part of a duo.

Also I agree she's not the best presenter on the station, I just think we've had far worse and that doesn't seem to have been recognised.

Yes you are right I did neglect the fact that Fearne has been on Radio one for many years herself, sorry. I was more refering to her initial ambitions, it seems she is far more concerned with television etc and sees radio as a back up in a way, not that it matters that she began in tv its just even now when she has a major radio one slot she does still seem to prioritise her tv work. Whereas others on the station have dedicated thier careers to radio and it just feels as if they have to take a back seat because Fearne is an established name when theres nothing to suggest that they wouldnt be able to do just as good job and more regularly. But thats just my opinion and I appreciate that theres a lot about fearne i dont know

[Tom.]

but I don't think time another DJ fills in is taken into account?

I think it is done by timeslot...

[Viv]

I don't think Fearne deserves her current spot on Radio 1. .

I swear if I see many more "I love Fearne", "I hate Fearne" posts, I'm gonna scream. Actually sit and scream.

She's in the Slot. And, as I have posted on aled.info, if people don't like her, there ARE such things as "off" buttons.

I do appreciate there are Career DJs such as Scott, who have wanted radio from a young age, but this ain't always gonna happen, so we need to live with that.

I find Fearne nice + light for the time of day. Would you want Zane Lowe in on a 1000 hours slot after all?!

No, I didn't think so.

Just a small, additional point, btw.... Fearne is a female (in case anyone hadn't noticed)..... A talented, little lady.... good TV presenter, on-the-ball with fashion, well turned out, good radio broadcaster...... I can't help thinking there is more than a little jealousy in people's opinions. As someone else was saying in another topic, Vernon Kay's first priority is TV, yet does he get slated THIS much?

No, he doesn't.

[KingTutsWWH]

Always nice to be quoted, but it's unecessary to single out my objections to Fearne really. I'm not the only person who isn't keen on her. I have never used the word 'hate' incidentally.

Anyhow, I agree this thread is becoming somewhat dull, and shall not be participating in it any longer.

Happy now?

[Viv]

Always nice to be quoted, but it's unecessary to single out my objections to Fearne really. I'm not the only person who isn't keen on her. I have never used the word 'hate' incidentally.

Anyhow, I agree this thread is becoming somewhat dull, and shall not be participating in it any longer.

Happy now?

Actually, no, funnily enough... I wasn't singling you out specifically, however I felt your comment was typical of reactions to the Cotton. To say she doesn't "deserve" the Slot is ridiculous. I dare say she would have been fired by now if she was as bad as people say. But she hasn't, has she?

There's potential there. Plenty of it. As I have posted before, the Fearne Cotton/Gok Wan discussion was fan-blooming-tastic. Great rapport, great discussion, great chemistry. Let's see some more, Ms Cotton - you can do it!!

I do use the word "hate" personally. Or "love". Sometimes there is simply no other option. Actually, how do you sit middle of the road?!?!

[MrDoovdeHaxorz]

A lot of people haven't used the word hate, but they do take every opportunity to criticise, yet I am told to shut up (by people who seem to imagine they have power to do so when they don't, I might add) and accused of hating when I do the same for a certain other DJ... Seems somehow when it's Fearne it's NOT hating?

[Viv]

Another day, another Fearne topic. When's the next one coming? Next week?

I still swear a lot of this is down to Fearne's gender (pure and simple).

[Tom.]

I don't think it is... Annie Mac, Sara Cox, and Jo Whiley have all been mentioned in v. positive lights in this thread.

[MrDoovdeHaxorz]

I would also disagree that it's purely a gender thing, even if a male DJ can do same things and escape much criticism (it seems).

[abertom]

just a thought when Fearne was with Reggie and Fearne covered for Vernon or Sara for example she had the chart/request show off but when Annie covered for Fearne she did her own show as well.

I'd say weekend presenters like Vernon who TV is their main passion is fine but the 5 day a week slots should go to presenters who really want to work in radio.