Jump to content
Unofficial Mills

US Elections 2008


fathomer90

Who will be the next President of the USA?  

27 members have voted

  1. 1. Who will be the next President of the USA?

    • McCain
      3
    • Obama
      25


Recommended Posts

dont know who to support?

<embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://www.youtube.com/player2.swf" style="" id="movie_player" name="movie_player" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" quality="high" allowfullscreen="true" flashvars="q=yes%20we%20can&e=h&sourceid=ys&video_id=jjXyqcx-mYY&l=270&sk=Oae3TmXvAL4cqa5alv4tEQU&t=OEgsToPDskJaoyGt9bWbeMWZ5V9NHn9N&hl=en&plid=AARFpQoP0EjpYgfUAAAAIAAIYAA&playnext=0" height="395" width="480">

<embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://www.youtube.com/player2.swf" style="" id="movie_player" name="movie_player" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" quality="high" allowfullscreen="true" flashvars="q=yes%20we%20can&e=h&sourceid=ys&video_id=jjXyqcx-mYY&l=270&sk=Oae3TmXvAL4cqa5alv4tEQU&t=OEgsToPDskLG47bHPKFD10s-PxazI2TK&hl=en&plid=AARFpReciG9Z1UkPAAAAIAAIYAA&playnext=0" height="395" width="480">[ame]

[/ame]

<embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://www.youtube.com/player2.swf" style="" id="movie_player" name="movie_player" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" quality="high" allowfullscreen="true" flashvars="q=yes%20we%20can&e=h&sourceid=ys&video_id=jjXyqcx-mYY&l=270&sk=Oae3TmXvAL4cqa5alv4tEQU&t=OEgsToPDskLG47bHPKFD10s-PxazI2TK&hl=en&plid=AARFpReciG9Z1UkPAAAAIAAIYAA&playnext=0" height="395" width="480">

<embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://www.youtube.com/player2.swf" style="" id="movie_player" name="movie_player" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" quality="high" allowfullscreen="true" flashvars="q=yes%20we%20can&e=h&sourceid=ys&video_id=jjXyqcx-mYY&l=270&sk=Oae3TmXvAL4cqa5alv4tEQU&t=OEgsToPDskJaoyGt9bWbeMWZ5V9NHn9N&hl=en&plid=AARFpQoP0EjpYgfUAAAAIAAIYAA&playnext=0" height="395" width="480">

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 101
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Obama won the latest states for the democrats and Mike Huckerby won for the Republicans, i like his slogan, I Like Mike.

Hilary mentioned something like we must make sure the next president is a democrat rather than saying make sure the next president it me... is she feeling the pressure?

My Photos are online at www.markohare.com

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 4 weeks later...

I think she is. She's looking unnerved now I think.

Barack really should be the next US president. It's time that nation (and the world for that matter) was run by someone who can actually think.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 7 months later...

Obama.

ps, just watch McCain's face when Obama says zero

Morse code in blinking?

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EASpPlcVbdI&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EASpPlcVbdI&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

Attunement.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

'Who should be?' and 'Who will be?' are two very different questions. The contenders are conducting a pretty unimpressive final debate - being shown atm on Newsnight. I really hate the diversion tactics opposing politicians on the campaign trail always use; criticising each others' failings rather than concentrating on their own strengths.

I would naturally be inclined to vote Democrat. I also have far more confidence in Obama's personality, intelligence and political acumen over McCain's "I'm just an ordinary guy who's slightly more bright than George Bush trying to win over the massive redneck vote" stance.

So fingers crossed, Obama will.

'To disagree with three-fourths of the British public is one of the first requisites of sanity'.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The third and final debate ended last night. If one is to believe almost all of the polls, Obama is ahead of McCain. We desperately need major changes here. I will be glad when it's all said and done by November 5th.

"The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma"- P. Star The Secret Box

Link to comment
Share on other sites

not all that keen on obama but he'll get the job for sure

Why are you not keen on Obama? I would like to hear your opinions.

'Who should be?' and 'Who will be?' are two very different questions.

The answer is the same though :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I would have prefered Hilary Clinton! However Obama is doing a pretty good job. Mccain has George Bush written all over, hopefully the Americans aren't stupid enough to vote him in for an unprecidented 3rd term. Perhaps with Obama he may be able to drive the US foreign policy away from the ideology that using guns and bombs fixes everything (which clearly hasn't)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

i agree Hilary Clinton would have been better, i was very interested in it when she was in the running, but both candidates are just the same now & they won't make any real difference.

McCain is a bit to old & his main problem is Bush.

Obama is weak on foreign policy, & i think he will just draw back in the way Bill Clinton did & he just doesn't seem sincere to me or have any real vision, he keeps going on about change,

well people thought the UK needed a change & voted in Labour many years ago & since then they have systematically destroyed this country.

if i could vote in it i would vote for 'none of the above' i haven't taken part in the above poll because there is no abstain option.

:)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

i agree Hilary Clinton would have been better, i was very interested in it when she was in the running, but both candidates are just the same now & they won't make any real difference.

McCain is a bit to old & his main problem is Bush.

Obama is weak on foreign policy, & i think he will just draw back in the way Bill Clinton did & he just doesn't seem sincere to me or have any real vision, he keeps going on about change,

well people thought the UK needed a change & voted in Labour many years ago & since then they have systematically destroyed this country.

if i could vote in it i would vote for 'none of the above' i haven't taken part in the above poll because there is no abstain option.

If you look at the poll though it asks who WILL be the next president not who do you want to be therefore having an abstain option wouldn't make sense. And if you think that Obama will be like Bill Clinton then how can you argue that his own wife wouldn't have been.

Personally I hope that Obama does get in as it will be a great step forward for America. If McCain gets in then I think it will be just as if Bush is in again.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If you look at the poll though it asks who WILL be the next president not who do you want to be therefore having an abstain option wouldn't make sense. And if you think that Obama will be like Bill Clinton then how can you argue that his own wife wouldn't have been.

Personally I hope that Obama does get in as it will be a great step forward for America. If McCain gets in then I think it will be just as if Bush is in again.

i didn't say that Obama will be like Bill Clinton, i was stating that his foreign policy will be the same & yes Hilary Clinton's would probably be the same but she isn't going to get in is she so it's a mute point, however Hilary Clinton can stand up to the other members & overall she has much more experience & overall would have been the better candidate & now that McCain has Palin as a running mate they are still in with a very good chance to win where-as if Hilary was the Dem candidate it would have been a easy win & don't forget that alot of Hilary's supporters have switched to the Palin camp.

& regarding the poll, is it not meant to be a who you want to be the next president as knowone can know as the real poll's are split so as it is very close shouldn't it have a 'i don't know' option ?

:)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If you don't know, don't vote?

don't vote !

why not ?

it is my right to vote, when i have been to a polling station (i have been to everyone i have been invited to) you can put a cross to every name on the voting form to show that none of the candidates represent you & its not a wasted vote, not voting is a wasted vote.

everyone should vote even if you don't like any of them, its no good just saying im not voting thats just lazy & stupid.

:)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

don't vote !

why not ?

it is my right to vote, when i have been to a polling station (i have been to everyone i have been invited to) you can put a cross to every name on the voting form to show that none of the candidates represent you & its not a wasted vote, not voting is a wasted vote.

everyone should vote even if you don't like any of them, its no good just saying im not voting thats just lazy & stupid.

It's a forum poll. Why are you comparing it to an election? If you don't vote correctly it IS a wasted vote. And even so, there isn't really an 'I don't know' option, so why should there be one here? Again, that IS a wasted vote.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

don't vote !

why not ?

it is my right to vote, when i have been to a polling station (i have been to everyone i have been invited to) you can put a cross to every name on the voting form to show that none of the candidates represent you & its not a wasted vote, not voting is a wasted vote.

everyone should vote even if you don't like any of them, its no good just saying im not voting thats just lazy & stupid.

are you really a bloke called alan or are you just a ten year old pretending to be an adult? :confused:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

...but both candidates are just the same now & they won't make any real difference.

You're right to an extent.

The only apparent differences between Obama and McCain are on taxation, as is the case with most political parties and individuals seeking office in present western democracies. Obama, however, bearing true to the Democratic tradition has opted for the 'bleeding-heart liberal' tax policy, essentially giving a tax cut to the poorest and increasing taxation on the richest which, personally, is commendable. McCain, though, is your typical corporate whore: tax cuts for the biggest corporations (because otherwise, it is argued, a heavily-taxed company will look elsewhere for its workforce, that evil 'communist' beast China), major spending cuts and/or freezes to government schemes and programmes that are an ideological chagrin to the Republicans and reforms to social security that will syphon-off the poorest and weakest members of society into low-paid jobs.

There are other noteworthy ideological disparities such as on abortion (Democrats tend to be pro-choice and Republicans pro-life) which is a particularly thorny issue in US politics and stem-cell research, again respectively, the former pro and the latter anti.

As for foreign policy, Obama is clearly of the school which promulgates multilateralism as opposed to unilateralism. I too support foreign policies which assent to the concept of an international community working together to solve and resolve issues, rather than one nation policing the world and condemning respectable international institutions that get in its way. Republicans, notably George W. Bush are practitioners of this attitude.

Therefore, I would if I were a US citizen vote for Obama, but only because a vote for Obama is a vote against McCain. If Ralph Nader had a strong chance of winning a US election he would get my vote. Obama, you could say, is the lesser of two evils who may make a difference if not domestically, certainly internationally.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I haven't really taken an interest in these elections, even though it has been pretty hard to avoid. I suppose I should though as I'm having to do Politics along with my degree, so I'm going to start swotting up on the matter - this thread is a great help.

Anyway, as I'm not too sure on who to vote for, I've voted for McCain as from what the Politics teacher was saying, he's a better candidate for it, as opposed to Obama. Once I've done some background reading I may (or may not) disagree and wished I'd voted Obama.

Alouette...deployer les ailes;

Alouette...plumerai les ailes.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If I had had your politics teacher the classroom would certainly have been an interesting place.

Hmm, yeah probably! I guess because none of us really know that much about it she's brainwashing us all to be McCain fans...

Alouette...deployer les ailes;

Alouette...plumerai les ailes.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Posts

    • Find Noah Kahan is just busker music. I mean I was pleasantly surprised that Ezra collective were in session for Jack Saunders on his new shoes and he is playing their latest track wouldn’t have thought few years back that at 6pm in the evening jazz music would be played. I hope if can get the green light and launch the 00s/10s station that the focus is on more new music be it pop mainstream and alternative genres on the main 1
    • Scott's show is perfect for the office. If Matt and Mol have a podcast I'd listen to that. All the fun without the Gen Z rappers. 
    • Similar to SZA’s Kill Bill, the word “kill” had been initially cut out of Taylor Swift’s Fortnight. But it seems like they are now playing an unedited version.
    • Also hopefully won't get my head bitten off for this but I'd say of the current Radio 1 DJs the one arguably most similar to Scott Mills's latter time on Radio 1 would be Mollie. I'm not saying she's as good as Scott was to be clear but she is that sort of vibe. 'Future Pop' is exactly the sort of music Scott would be championing and you can tell Mollie has the same passion for it that Scott did. There's that Party Anthems link too - a show Matt & Mol do that previously Scott did and they bring a similar energy to how Scott did that makes it a fun listen. Matt & Mollie seem to just have that natural connection with the listeners that Scott & Chris did that you can't manufacture.
    • I find at the minute I'm a bit of a nomad when it comes to radio stations. Often the Radio 1 playlist really doesn't appeal to me these days and I did wonder is it just me tiring of new music but then I'll listen to Future Pop and Party Anthems and there's loads of tunes on there that I love and they're excellent listens but just too few of those make it to the playlist. Radio 2 may arguably be more to my taste music wise but also often feels too rooted on the past. Plus much of the content just doesn't appeal to me and verges on the 'mumsy' side. Plus Radio 2's new music can feel very 'middle of the road' - just because I don't enjoy some of the Radio 1 new stuff it doesn't mean I want Take That & Will Young as 'new music'. For me currently if I'm tuning in for radio it'll be Jordan North on Capital Breakfast, on Radio 1 Matt & Mollie, (if Jamie is off)  Going Home and Sam & Danni plus there's also Capital Dance and Mistajam. They all hit the mark for me in a way other shows don't.
    • Matt & Mol for me. For those that enjoyed Scott's Radio 1 show, Matt & Mollie are the natural successors (even more so than Scott's Radio 2 show) - two best mates doing a fun show packed full of content For one thing Matt & Mol inherited two of Scott's ex producers in Amy & Helena. Some Matt & Mollie features you could easily imagine Scott doing e.g. Matt vs Mollie and some feel near identical (can see 'Battletracks' taking the old 'Bangers' slot as it feels heavily based on that feature). Also while this may be down to being a weekend show Matt & Mol's show does seem to lean in a more pop direction and seems to deviate from the playlist more than some other shows- which helps as the Radio 1 playlist can be quite marmite and get samey very quickly. Something just doesn't hit the mark for me with Scott on Radio 2. It feels like it's aimed at somebody about a decade older than me and relies heavily on Noughties nostalgia. Scott too I feel works best with somebody else to work off and is missing that fun element he had with Chris and previously Chappers. It's fine but not something I'll go out my way to listen to.  
    • Random idea time: condense all the throwback shows into one three hour show from 10am to 1pm on a Saturday, get Katie Thistleton back to host it (as Charlie does with Dance Anthems on a Saturday), call it “Radio 1’s Bottomless Brunch with Katie Thistleton” and just have 3 hours of throwbacks from across the decades, not just 00s or 10s, just a mix of everything. The occasional 90s anthem, tunes from the early 2020s, just 3 hours of pure feel good
    • I think it's great the amount of choice out there right now. I could happily listen to Greg or Jordan in the morning, Going Home or Huw Stephens in the evening, or Scott and Matt and Mollie in afternoons.  Still a few times when I'm channel hopping but maybe that's healthy to check out what's around.  As that research pointed out, Scott is good for minimal distractions. If you want some chaos I dare say it'll be Matt and Mollie offering that.  Plenty of my friends say it's the Radio 1 playlist that puts them off, even if they like the DJs. So Radio 2 is more preferable. 
    • I quite quickly gave up on Scott’s show on R2 as I realised it wasn’t my kind of vibe. I do listen to the Scott Mills weekly to catch up, because I still think Scott is great, but there is just something missing (for example, he played out some clips recently of the old sleep recording app from the R1 days, and didn’t play ‘go and open the window Garry’ - or if he did, it didn’t make it to the podcast.) I don’t see them changing it now or making it any ‘younger’ than it is.   Matt & Mollie in the afternoon is something that I’m really looking forward to. They are such an interesting and funny listen. It has given me a different dilemma though, as 1pm has been the perfect time for me to catch up on the Capital breakfast show and takes me perfectly to the end of my working day, so now I’ll probably have to forego listening to that and stick with R1 for Matt & Mollie. These shows need podcasts because it’s already giving me fomo. 
    • Even for the older Radio 1 listeners (of which there are still quite a few) Scott’s show doesn’t feel quite right.  (That’s nothing on Scott who sounds good but more the station sound and content). Since moving to Capital Breakfast I haven’t been listening to much Radio 1.  I always found the shows outside of Breakfast and Drive more wallpaper due to my working day and the show content of RMC and Dean and Vicky so Capital is just background noise to me after enjoying Breakfast.
    • I love Scott but if you're a 20 or 30 something that enjoyed his last few years of Radio 1 the Radio 2 show just doesn't translate. Stars from Neighbours or 90s singers just aren't my cup of tea and I can't get enthused about some has been at Radio 2 in the Park or some country music countdown.  Until that changes I will probably more likely listen to Matt and Mollie.  The Steve Wright fans think Radio 2 has turned into Radio 1 but it has a long way to go to win over the older R1 audience. 
    • Radio 2 brought in Scott to bring the afternoon audience age down, but I feel with Matt and Mollie replacing Dean and Vicky they're going to be competing for a similar audience. Will Scott's show evolve to bring in more listeners or do you think they will be comfortable with the audience they currently have?
    • Yes I'm the same with 6Music. Huw Stephens offers something different. 
    • They are an answer. I do listen to 6 Music quite a bit but kind of feel like it isn’t for me unlike the New Music Fix Daily, Huw Stephens who I’d happily listen to. Think it’s a generational thing and music preference. But it’s like how 1 Xtra cut down Snoochie Shy’s nightly show to just Monday and with Wednesday and Thursday with just playlist programme. I just miss the days of having more choice of that time of night.
    • Practically speaking, Riley & Coe on 6Music is the answer to that problem - but I get your overall point.
×
×
  • Create New...