Do you want to work in radio?

[Guest stevie]

How fixed did that sound this morning? Such a set up!

Had to post that, I wanted to make Moyles fans feel how Mills fans feel when everyone claims his stuff is fixed

[Jono]

Haha, I did chuckle at that.

[Fish Heads]

Had to post that, I wanted to make Moyles fans feel how Mills fans feel when everyone claims his stuff is fixed

Maybe post it at a moyles site then, rather than a mills one then?!

[Guest stevie]

No I'm quite alright, there appears to be sixty topics about how fixed the Scott Mills show is on the Chris Moyles website to I thought I'd post one here

[Fish Heads]

Well you're not really getting to the audience of moyles fans, but whatever floats your boat.

[Guest staghead]

Hah, every radio show is 'fixed' to an extent.

Callers are all prepped and conversation is dicussed beforehand eg i'll ask you this then answer etc etc

And all links are scripted, Moyles and his team are more guilty of this than Mills. Respect to Moyles and his team though for producing a full show script for 5, 3 hours shows a week.

[Jono]

The problem is we're all far too geeky compared to most of the newbies who come along and visit the fan sites. Some take the radio stuff too seriously and spend as much time looking at it as they would with something like 'is there a God?'

[Fish Heads]

And all links are scripted, Moyles and his team are more guilty of this than Mills. Respect to Moyles and his team though for producing a full show script for 5, 3 hours shows a week.

[roy walker mode]Well if you say so...[/roy walker mode]

[Guest stevie]

No it's those sort of responses that make me smile. The non-Mills fans and Moyles fans always dig into Scott's show and say such and such is made up, and yet when the table's turned they don't like it. That's all I'm trying to say, no need for me to sign up to another forum to say it

[Guest staghead]

Good on your stevie

[Fish Heads]

Well if people say something completly untrue you will get those kind of responses. There is a lot of unfair criticisms for both shows, but to suggest an entire 3 hours is "scripted" is completly rediculous. I'm not saying some elements aren't planned on moyles's show, but it's hardly scripted is it?

Again Stevie, it's all very well saying this from the comfort of a Mills forum isn't it? I'm not saying you are wrong in this particular case (I couldn't comment on it anyway, didn't hear the show this morning), but if you really wanted to make a point about moyles fans, address it to somewhere where they can see it rather than from the safety of a mills board! I'm not having a go or anything, but it just seems kind of wierd.

[Guest stevie]

It's a jokey topic more than anything, I wanted to prove a point. Like with this topic - I'm not picking on the Chris Moyles site, there's plenty of others - but huge topics like this -

Pizza Guy -

I reckon it's probably fake. There's no way that guy would give Scott permission to play those calls on air.

http://chrismoyles.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11436

Scott Mills Show -

Laura's Diary is good to listen to, but I can't help wondering whether Chappers and Scott just sit down and make it up!

http://chrismoyles.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11124

You get the idea. Perhaps they should think about posting on the relavent message board as well.

[Fish Heads]

Perhaps they should think about posting on the relavent message board as well.

They should have, they were both started by newbies, which says a lot anyway. But if the topics bothered you so much, maybe you should have stepped in and put your 2p across...

[Guest staghead]

Well if people say something completly untrue you will get those kind of responses. There is a lot of unfair criticisms for both shows, but to suggest an entire 3 hours is "scripted" is completly rediculous. I'm not saying some elements aren't planned on moyles's show, but it's hardly scripted is it?

It really is scripted though. Not word for word but Moyles' rants are scripted and the conversation is all bullet pointed down on script. Thus the lack of hesitations, false starts in sentences. Etc. This is common practise in radio. The trick to to MAKE it sound unscriped which Moyles et al do very well.

[Jono]

Feels a bit heated in this topic!

[Fish Heads]

It really is scripted though. Not word for word but Moyles' rants are scripted and the conversation is all bullet pointed down on script. Thus the lack of hesitations, false starts in sentences. Etc. This is common practise in radio. The trick to to MAKE it sound unscriped which Moyles et al do very well.

And you know this how?

[Guest staghead]

Heh, no hatred on my side

[Guest staghead]

And you know this how?

I am a radio presenter at a commercial radio station.

[Fish Heads]

No offence, but I imagine it to be a different ball game at radio 1. I think you are confusing scripted with planned. The team do plan what subjects they are going to talk about, but not that far in advance - Aled has stated before on CM.net that topics may not be decided until an hour before they go on air perhaps even less. Also, if I was being paid to talk professionally on air, I wouldn't fluff up my sentances either (although the team do actually fluff on occasion - which Chris ususally records and plays for days after)

I would say that ultimatly Moyles show is planned in some respect (it would be foolish to suggest the Radio 1 breakfast show is otherwise), but is nowhere near "scripted".

[fizzbizz]

They seem to have a lot of paper when it comes to stuff like track information and stuff. It might not all be a script but it seem they have a lot of paper work.

[Fish Heads]

Yeah, I think all shows would have that as it's probably a neccesity of the station since ultimatly its all about the music.

The only things that are set in stone are things like when they announce One Big Weekends, Competitons and interviews which obviously wouldn't work without it.

[Guest staghead]

No offence, but I imagine it to be a different ball game at radio 1. I think you are confusing scripted with planned. The team do plan what subjects they are going to talk about, but not that far in advance - Aled has stated before on CM.net that topics may not be decided until an hour before they go on air perhaps even less. Also, if I was being paid to talk professionally on air, I wouldn't fluff up my sentances either (although the team do actually fluff on occasion - which Chris ususally records and plays for days after)

I would say that ultimatly Moyles show is planned in some respect (it would be foolish to suggest the Radio 1 breakfast show is otherwise), but is nowhere near "scripted".

But the boastful caricature obscures the fact he is a serious broadcaster. Everything is planned to the second; banter pre-arranged, callers primed, sound-effects cued. Moyles orchestrates a five-person comedy show, making it sound genuine, edgy and effortless, pulling in his best-ever breakfast audience of 6.5 million listeners and contributing to Radio 1's recent renaissance in the process.

http://www.chrismoyles.net/mw/chrisguardianJan06.shtml

Sorry to break the illusion.

Chris Evans' show is unscripted, Moyles is totally scripted. Download Evans' podcast and see the difference.

[Jono]

That article is an interesting insight in to the show. All those team members aren't employed just to turn up on the day and talk, so I'd imagine the article is right.

I think it's unfair to bring Evans in, Moyles does Breakfast, Evans doesn't.

[Guest staghead]

I was comparing Evan and Moyles because the TYPE of show is similar. Evans has a team too, although as you can tell from listening, they don't have a script as there are lots more natural speech features, hesitations, cock ups.

I wasn't showing preference to either, as I like both of these presenters equally.

[Fish Heads]

http://www.chrismoyles.net/mw/chrisguardianJan06.shtml

Sorry to break the illusion.

Chris Evans' show is unscripted, Moyles is totally scripted. Download Evans' podcast and see the difference.

Fair enough Staghead. I bow to your superior knowledge

Although if that is the case Re: Evens, it shows IMO. It's a sloppy show for me.