AndyK77
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Not a shock as in the interim it allows Katie to have from Thursday evening to Monday morning with her husband and it was obvious Vick was going to exit from the show even before the Jordan saga.
Also gives Lauren as a cover presenter for the whole station.
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But 2 years really isn't that short...so many daytime shows over time have lasted that or less.
If it was a true disaster it would have lasted 6 months.
(And I am saying this as a non-fan).
It's not a success story clearly but not a disaster either.
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The more I think about this, the less I understand it.
Vick and Katie would be a good Going Home show without Jamie.
What did happen in the aftermath of Jordan leaving. Did Katie initially turn it down and they persuaded her to change her mind? Did they see the reaction to Jamie and see that they needed Katie to balance out the loss of Jordan?
Some odd chain of events has happened
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9 minutes ago, Rob86 said:
It is definitely a failure and they’re both going to lesser slots, whatever the spin. Grimmy leaving Drive was his decision after a long successful stint at Radio 1.
It seemed pretty random to me when the appointment was made. They’d never done a show together. Vicky had no regular slot on Radio 1. And when you pair people up, it so often doesn’t work - it really needs to be trialled first.
The people involved have got to be great broadcasters and genuine friends. Vicky just seems to giggle at everything. I’ve always found it really hard to listen to and that’s so rare for me to say about a Radio 1 show. But it has me turning off. Roll on July.
Don't get me wrong - the show being axed says that the station accepted it was no longer the right thing to continue with but "disaster" is too strong. They didn't kill the ratings. (And I am saying this as somebody who never really liked the show).
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20 minutes ago, xxladybarefootxx said:
Judge Jamie - that would be carnage 🤣
I couldn't really listen today, when I switched on they were doing the something songs and it sounded like Katie and Vick were getting fed up with Jamie's interjections.... comments like 'lovely story Jamie, but let's hear what Listener's story is' (I forget the name of the listener, they used her name).
I was pleasantly surprised when I listened yesterday, but I do think to make this work long term is going to take a lot of work from all involved.
I gave it another try today and still didn’t warm to it and your comment is the biggest problem.
Jamie just won’t shut up but doesn’t seem to realise when he is adding no value.
We all know Jordan wasn’t as random as he pretended to be. He knew exactly what he was doing but that’s because he is a skilled presenter who is obsessed with his craft.
The contrast couldn’t be (Chris) starker.
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12 minutes ago, Greg20 said:
I shall be listening to Will Manning on Capital this afternoon from 4.
I like Katie and I enjoyed Vick with Jordan so I will give it another go today but I can't see me sticking with it. Jamie is clearly quite marmite and not for me.
Curious what they will replace Judge Jordan with today.
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2 hours ago, Jono said:
No I think they stabled the ship after Mills left.
If they'd been a total disaster ratings wise - they would have been long gone and we'd have heard all about it.
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Two years isn’t exactly a failure - it’s only seen as a failure by comparison to how long many national radio shows last. I suspect a tonne of factors at work in the show ending now.
Nick Grimshaw only did two years on drive after breakfast and back in the day Mark and Lard lasted 6 months or so on Breakfast.
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13 hours ago, wbroom12 said:
It's not a good look. R1 really wide of the mark with this appointment. Vick and Katie have excellent chemistry so don't need Jamie. Maybe they didn't think Katie would move to London or Vick wouldn't go Manchester permanent. Strange decision. Will be interesting hearing the listeners figures in 3 months
Strangely though - listeners seem to take a lot to switch off. Despite very little positivity, I don't think Dean and Vicky killed the figures as bad as we might have expected.
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1 hour ago, Mercede5 said:
I so agree with this but was too scared to say it as I felt I was in my own!
I am sad Jordan’s gone, but I think I laughed more listening to today’s show than I ever have when it was Vick and Jordan.It just shows how we are all different and have different humour as I would have laughed out loud most days with Jordan there and at best I tolerated today.
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28 minutes ago, xxladybarefootxx said:
My problem is that it was a bit crowded. I love Katie so much, and she always has such lovely and funny stories to tell, I feel she was cut short in a lot of today's show. Which leads me to my second unpopular opinion - without Jordan there, I would have just preferred it to be Katie and Jamie. I'm not the biggest fan of Vick. I have tried, but I find her too giggly and not always forthcoming with anything other than innuendo. Personally, I can see why they brought Katie in last minute to save the dynamic, but as a trio I think there is too much going on.
I think there is a lot of truth in this...if they let Katie dominate things a little, this has the potential to be ok. The biggest problem for me today is it was almost like Vick and Katie with Jamie as the star guest and focus of attention.
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I'm sorry - it is virtually unlistenable. I had hoped for better when it was announced Katie was going to be a part of it.
It is incredibly Jamie dominated. He just keeps talking randomly.
I don't think it helps that it is basically the same show as before so the Jordan shaped hole is obvious.
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1 hour ago, BBCAaron said:
which I think making it about himself and what the listeners have criticised his position as a co-host of the new drive show that could give that impression of him being out of touch and cringingly name dropping plus the fact he didn’t know the start time and the size of audience even if it. Was said in jest doesn’t help him on the show.
"I only have famous friends" - if he is trying to prove "he isn't just a posh idiot" this is probably not a wise start.
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First half hour wasn't exactly a riveting listen - Jamie playing messages from celebrity friends wishing him luck..
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1 hour ago, Darren m said:
Now can you do a show without a contract in don’t know how these things work
It's possible to start a new role then sort the contract later. I have done that before. Plus he has an existing relationship with the station.
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I personally would like Sam And Danni to get weekend lunchtimes.
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2 hours ago, ianwilk1999 said:
Yet to be convinced about him and if he'll win over the "normal" listeners who don't have a load of money. In the 12 min podcast they did, already the shrugging off of turning up to his driving theory test over 30 times because "life got in the way" could be seen as miles away from someone who saves money up to get their licence.
That came across to me too. How many listeners could afford just not to turn up 30 times to something they'd paid for.
The issue isn't really about Jamie's background to me but more about understanding his craft. Radio is a skill - the greats like Terry Wogan, Chris Evans, Chris Moyles, Steve Wright, Ken Bruce, Greg James and let's even add Jordan North have all shown it's about connecting with people. That takes experience and also I'd argue stuff you can never just learn but have an innate understanding of the industry. Jamie seems to think you open the mic and that's it.
I am curious how this sounds, Vick and Katie have been doing shows for a long time, including many weeks in that slot when Katie has been in for Jordan. It may not be so bad as it could have been without Katie there but still...I think it could also sound "too busy" Another thing to consider is Vick - gradually her world is so far from listeners that could be an issue too.
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Most people don’t want to do Early Breakfast for too long and Arielle now seems to want to be purely a specialist presenter, also concentrating on her DJ career.
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10 minutes ago, Darren m said:
Dean seems quite happy from his post on insta
With no disrespect to him - he is naturally going to put a brave face on this.
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1 hour ago, R1Fan1 said:
For whatever reason, Danny Beard will be looking after the slot until July.
That will be unlistenable - you know that already.
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46 minutes ago, riksweeney said:
I'm not even going to sugarcoat it. Good riddance to Dean and Vicky, their show is easily the worst of the weekday shows by a long way. The only surprise is that it took this long for the bosses to realise.
As I said on another thread - I feel sorry for them. The events are more a reflection on management than the two presenters and this sort of thing can damage a presenters career very badly.
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Just now, Dan18F1 said:
Conor Knight is covering for Sam and Danni on Sunday. I think that’s the first day off their show since they started in September!
No doubt they need a break after how many days in a row? Plus some commuting between London and Cardiff.
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4 minutes ago, IamNotFromUK said:
Yeah, it's a big demotion for Dean. Early breakfast is usually the first career step at Radio 1 or a promotion from doing a weekend show. Dean seems like a nice man, but I feel he was catapulted to the weekday show too fast, and we're seeing the result of it.
I do feel a little sorry for Dean and Vicky. The show hasn't worked but I am inclined to blame management more than them. Dean's recent Breakfast covers have shown that he has more potential than some of us gave credit.
Going Home with Vick, Katie and Jamie
in BBC Radio 1
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Jamie is off today - the show sounds absolutely fine!