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Has there been some shape or form of large weekend or something recently? Just thought I'd ask around.

Ben Hemsley is brilliant. All of his productions capture the peak of dance music around the 90s and early 00s. Remember hearing Danny Howard talk to him, he grew up hearing the classics from his mums collection.

How was your day thread went on forever.

Yeah sure they did Dundee at some point, may have been mid to late 00's.

I can't wait for One Big Sunday 2001, in Carlisle. Can't miss Victoria Beckham.

Expecting Vernon to have a few weeks of hate chucked at him and then it will settle. I don't see Ken Bruce going too long at GH, the hype has now died and the endless adverts will turn people away.

I have thought of that tbh, but because there's copyrighted music on them I have a feeling they would kick off. And I don't have the time to edit down all the shows to take out the music really

Since around June 2007, every Radio 1/2/3/4/5 etc show has been kept. A project called Redux started that year and it basically captured the free view output of TV and radio from the BBC. Before that it's probably scattered here and there. Shows from big news events, big guests, live shows etc were kept from what I can gather.

Yeah I can't imagine they kept every single show. When Radio 1 reached 50 a few years ago I know from a few people, that old producers were contacted to see what material they had. If any. I think live shows, special guests etc were probably kept. I remember something in 2006 called 'BBC Infax', which was public. You couldn't download anything, but it was a small window into what they had sitting about. It was only around for 12 months or so and nothing has really replaced it as such.

Has anyone got any modern insight on how the BBC archive is looking right now? Especially when it comes to Radio, mainly Radio 1? Around 5 or so years ago I did some short term work for the BBC. And had access to BBC Redux, which at the time was the BBC's internal archive go-to. I searched for Radio 1 stuff but could only get anything from July 2007 to the current day. Redux mainly automatically captured and uploaded the freeview output from July 07 onwards. There was archive content in there, but mainly TV stuff. Which bizarrely included lots of circa 2000 VHS rips of BBC breakfast with Jeremy Bowen with his epic mustache of the time. Redux has now since been integrated with other elements of BBC archive. I no longer have access to any of it at all. So if anyone knows, what's in there these days? Is there any classic Scott Mills early breakfast gold locked away, Chris Moyles, Mark and Lard... Chappers and Dave? Would be interesting to know.

A bit late to respond to this but I actually have Judge Jules' final Radio 1 show around somewhere. It was nothing too special tbh, a studio show where he played a tune from each year from the start of his time on Radio 1 till the end. It was 11pm till 1am on a Friday Night, a low key end to one of the biggest dance DJ's on the planet around 2000. I get the feeling Jules just didn't want the fuss though. I'll have to seek it out, but otherwise I'm sure it's on the Judge Jules archive website anyway.

I don't think Radio 1 as far as dance shows will reach the levels of Pete Tong, Danny Rampling, Judge Jules, Dave Pearce, Seb Fontaine for me. They had the luxury of live shows back 20 odd years ago though, which made them what they were along with the quality of music that was around. BBC don't seem to have the budget nowdays, to do the live from Creamfields sort of thing they did then. Saying that, I think dance music in general is in a far better place that it was around 2013 way. Sarah Story has taken to it like a duck to water, really enjoy her show. Pete Tong is always worth a listen too if your into the deeper side of dance music.

Listened to a bit of him on Radio X when he was on after Chris Moyles. And I remember him from his Radio 1 days. Whoever replaces Ken Bruce they will be no good to some. So may as well just do his own thing.

A good way to scale it is look at what gets played at something like a wedding disco, or party. Where family members there and friends range from the very young to the very old. 20 years ago it wasn't uncommon to hear something like "Rock Around The Clock" and a couple of likewise for the older crew. Nowdays, that's very rare. The oldest you get is Candi Station Young Heart Run Free, maybe if its called for a few motown tracks like the Four Tops. But even that is pushing it nowdays. Its kind of like the angle Radio 2 are at right now, the same as that DJ at that party. Can you carry on playing music to a generation that isn't around to hear it anymore?

I'm not sure if Radio 1 ever aimed for the "new" dance anthems to be the same as its original format with Dave Pearce. Or meant for it to try and offer a modern version of what Judge Jules' 5pm Saturday show used to. Back around the mid 90s to the mid 00s it felt like young people used to go to bigger scale events and more often. They used to travel the country on weekends going to superclubs like Cream, Gatecrasher in Sheffield etc. So the original dance anthems was on at the right time on a Sunday night, everyone interacting with the show saying where they had been over the weekend and with who. What DJ they had seen and what was the big tune of the weekend etc. House and Garage music were big around this point, but my a country mile it was the boom of Trance around the millenium that stood out. It was the fuel for the show really. Todays version I do see has a bit of an identity crisis. That said Charlie has history with Kiss who have always been heavily involved with dance culture. So playing commercial dance tracks, she's good enough to do that really. Interacting with the listeners will be different though, there's that many sub genres of dance (especially house) now it's hard to keep up. Not as many people are into one strain and the same thing now, pulling the same way. Also at that time of day it's usually the dancing in the kitchen and cooking the dinner type who will text in etc.

Also listened to bits of Rickie, Charlie and Melvin whilst at work earlier for the first time. Wasn't too taken up on them tbh. Lots of laughing at not much, pushing the mic limiter into the red and talking over one another. Charlie does OK on her own with dance anthems. I get the zoo format as Moyles used to have it especially on drive time, but it has to be pulled off correctly. Jordan North as per has been great when I've heard him. Used to listen to his old weekend show in my old job and he's just as good if not better, he's tailor made for the big shows. If anyone can step into the main role, it's him. Its hard for me to think of Greg James coming to the end of his time at Radio 1 though. He's still young to me, and it feels like he only started there a moment ago from student radio. Although he's 37, he's feels more like an older brother to the whippersnappers. Different to when Moyles left, and to younger listeners at that time who saw him as that "millenium shock jock from 10 years ago when I was in primary school". Saying that Mark and Lard were doing a daytime radio 1 show until their mid 40s, winning sony golds. And then there's what Scott did, which is another level altogether. Like I said, Greg has a good few years there yet imo.

Radcliffe and Maconie, like them as a duo. But never quite reached the levels of Mark and Lard. Totally different thing obviously. Also nice to see Alex Lester on there too, met him once or twice working in Birmingham. Really nice chap. Also a show playing 1950s music is unheared of nowdays. Can't be many who listened to that back in 2011 still about...

May be a risk but Mark Radcliffe and Marc Riley on the old 2!? I can dream... Both are too into their own thing now. I think Greg has a good few years left at Radio 1. I recall him when he first joined and not to say he was bad around 07/08 way but he's come such a long way. He was brilliant the day after the Queen died. The way he connected with listeners and reflected himself on air. Haven't heard anything on that level since Mark Radcliffe & Chris Moyles on the day and days after of 9/11. I simply think it's more of a Radio 1 thing than 2 with him. They can't afford to lose him at the moment. Scott going was always going to happen, but Greg can't leave until the next generation is properly ready.

Think I said this in the chat box thingy contraption. But I doubt Jo will move now. She's back in the time slot she started out in the 90s on Radio 1, only this time without Steve Lemaq. The abuse she had when she was paired up with Simon Mayo on drive was disgusting. Even he had to step up and state that it wasn't her fault and she shouldn't of had that thrown at her. Plus she can get away with more post 7pm. Ive heard her play the likes of Wu Tang Clan Gravel Pit not too long ago, can Radio 2 play that before 7? Not sure. I think she likes her musical freedom there as a, specialist show, so why sacrifice that?

Just thinking that I feel sorry for Ken Bruce. All he's really said, is that he's had great times but it's time for a new challenge. And world war 3 has kicked off. I mean he's still going to be on the radio doing what he does just elsewhere, what have the 1940s crew exactly lost anyway? I feel if Ken personally had a problem 'with all this new 90s and 00s music for kids' as the dinosaurs say. Then wouldn't he have gone to Smooth instead? Their music policy mostly doesn't recognise a world post colour TV, Greatest Hits plays its fair amount of 90s on the other hand. Possibly even some fitting 00s stuff too pretty soon as times moves on.

Feltz is a has been who never ought to have been anyway.

Here's a quote I found online on a daily fail post. Some boomer I have added (not for much longer) posted on there. Word for word. "It's the BBC in general, trying to make radio all for younger listeners. Thing is they all listen to Spotify anyway and don't listen to radio, plus how many of these younger listeners pay the liscence fee? Very very few I bet" This is Radio 2 we are talking about. They don't have much interest in pulling in people under 30 really. So those people even just over that mark, that could have kids, mortgages, full time jobs etc. All listen to Spotify and don't pay the liscence fee? Piss off. I'm 34 years old and have never had Spotify, never bothered. And I cant be arsed to Bluetooth my phone into every vehicle I drive all the time. And paying liscence fees? Behave. Ive seen too much of these entitled pricks about these days. Simply because they had their best years 30 to 40 years ago, they think they own the world and nobody else should have a turn. The good thing is in another 10 or 20 years we won't have to put up with their bs as they won't be here to voice it frankly. That sounded like a proper circa 2001 Chris Moyles rant. Like him, I'm a lot more mellow nowdays but these types are really annoying me.

No chance. I reckon Greg will beat Moyles' time there and then some. I don't think from listening to Radio 1 recently, that they have anyone who's capable of truly stepping in his shoes. When Grimmy left Greg was always on the cards, nothing like that in the wings now. Maybe Jordan North at a push, but still too early for him even imo.

I pretty much think this is true. They won't replace Ken Bruce really, as he's the last in the line of a certain era. The direction Radio 2 want to push in is what Radio 1 was around the millenium give or take. With probably a touch more 80s. Ken Bruce playing anything newer than that, sounds out of place for him and his listeners. Same way Scott Mills playing the Monkees from the 1960s yesterday, sounded as equally out of place. So something has to give along the line really.

I hope so. Got a new job which includes driving about a lot and I've really been enjoying Scott's show whilst on the move. Most I've listened to him again since around 2007/8. I don't mind Ken Bruce, pop master is pretty good. And to do the stint he's done is admirable. But there have been times where I have drifted away from his show and over to other stations sometimes. I know he's off to poorest hits. I'd rather drink paint than listen to that, and their anti under 40's audience.