Katherine Ryan turned up on Nick Grimshaw's 6 Music breakfast show already exhausted, having been awake since 3.50am thanks to her children ignoring the clocks going back. By the end of their chat about her new memoir, Firstborn Daughter, Nick joked that she'd "already been awake for about six and a half hours now" and needed a breakfast show of her own. Katherine agreed instantly: "I need a breakfast show… I'm up." Nick shot back, "You actually might as well do it."
Listen: Katherine Ryan jokes about taking over breakfast
The pair got into some proper tangents, including a debate over how to pronounce "homage" that went round in circles with neither settling on an answer, and a discussion about Kim Kardashian dressing up as her own daughter Northwest for Halloween, which Katherine called "toxic" while admitting she didn't think Kim meant it that way. Katherine revealed her own Halloween plan is to drive her four kids to a smarter neighbourhood for trick-or-treating because their own street doesn't get visitors, with her baby going as a bat.
Listen: Katherine Ryan on Kim Kardashian dressing as Northwest for Halloween
Earlier in the show, author and 6 Music presenter Zakia Sewell talked Nick through spooky autumn folklore ahead of Halloween, from the Celtic festival of Samhain to the fiery Tar Barrels tradition in Ottery St Mary, and plugged a "soul and spooky special" on her Sunday show Dreamtime featuring Charlie Cooper. Nick also confirmed Jams Supernova is covering his slot for the next two weeks.
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