Robbie Keane

Virgin is a great station, actually. They have a more varied playlist for just relaxing and listening to good music whilst working, instead of the student-aimed Radio One. Not that I dislike Radio One at all; the opposite in fact (biasm against rock aside). But Virgin is one of the better stations in the country right now, and guys like Iain Lee and Geoff Lloyd are really excelling in their roles. Iain Lee, in particular, could really give Radio One (especially Edith, who is utter garbage) a run for their money if moved into an earlier weekday slot.

For music alone, Daniel P. Carter. Annoys the tar out of me that the BBC treats rock music like it's a red-headed little bitch when there's a huge rock following in this country that deserves to be acknowledged. But Carter is at least doing his best with the God-awful timeslot and lack of respect the BBC shows his choice of genre.

Saul Williams - "Coded Language" Whereas, breakbeats have been the missing link connecting the diasporic community to its drum woven past Whereas the quantised drum has allowed the whirling mathematicians to calculate the ever changing distance between rock and stardom. Whereas the velocity of the spinning vinyl, cross-faded, spun backwards, and re-released at the same given moment of recorded history , yet at a different moment in time's continuum has allowed history to catch up with the present. We do hereby declare reality unkempt by the changing standards of dialogue. Statements, such as, "keep it real", especially when punctuating or anticipating modes of ultra-violence inflicted psychologically or physically or depicting an unchanging rule of events will hence forth be seen as retro-active and not representative of the individually determined is. Furthermore, as determined by the collective consciousness of this state of being and the lessened distance between thought patterns and their secular manifestations, the role of men as listening receptacles is to be increased by a number no less than 70 percent of the current enlisted as vocal aggressors. Motherfuckers better realize, now is the time to self-actualize We have found evidence that hip hops standard 85 rpm when increased by a number as least half the rate of it's standard or decreased at ¾ of it's speed may be a determining factor in heightening consciousness. Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. Equate rhyme with reason, Sun with season Our cyclical relationship to phenomenon has encouraged scholars to erase the centers of periods, thus symbolizing the non-linear character of cause and effect Reject mediocrity! Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which as been given for you to understand. The current standard is the equivalent of an adolescent restricted to the diet of an infant. The rapidly changing body would acquire dysfunctional and deformative symptoms and could not properly mature on a diet of apple sauce and crushed pears Light years are interchangeable with years of living in darkness. The role of darkness is not to be seen as, or equated with, Ignorance, but with the unknown, and the mysteries of the unseen. Thus, in the name of: ROBESON, GOD'S SON, HURSTON, AHKENATON, HATHSHEPUT, BLACKFOOT, HELEN, LENNON, KHALO, KALI, THE THREE MARIAS, TARA, LILITHE, LOURDE, WHITMAN, BALDWIN, GINSBERG, KAUFMAN, LUMUMBA, GHANDI, GIBRAN, SHABAZZ, SIDDHARTHA, MEDUSA, GUEVARA, GUARDSIEFF, RAND, WRIGHT, BANNEKER, TUBMAN, HAMER, HOLIDAY, DAVIS, COLTRANE, MORRISON, JOPLIN, DUBOIS, CLARKE, SHAKESPEARE, RACHMNINOV, ELLINGTON, CARTER, GAYE, HATHOWAY, HENDRIX, KUTL, DICKERSON, RIPPERTON, MARY, ISIS, THERESA, PLATH, RUMI, FELLINI, MICHAUX, NOSTRADAMUS, NEFERTITI, LA ROCK, SHIVA, GANESHA, YEMAJA, OSHUN, OBATALA, OGUN, KENNEDY, KING, FOUR LITTLE GIRLS, HIROSHIMA, NAGASAKI, KELLER, BIKO, PERONE, MARLEY, COSBY, SHAKUR, THOSE STILL AFLAMED, AND THE COUNTLESS UNNAMED We claim the present as the pre-sent, as the hereafter. We are unraveling our navels so that we may ingest the sun. We are not afraid of the darkness, we trust that the moon shall guide us. We are determining the future at this very moment. We now know that the heart is the philosophers' stone Our music is our alchemy We stand as the manifested equivalent of 3 buckets of water and a hand full of minerals, thus realizing that those very buckets turned upside down supply the percussion factor of forever. If you must count to keep the beat then count. Find you mantra and awaken your subconscious. Curve you circles counterclockwise Use your cipher to decipher, Coded Language, man made laws. Climb waterfalls and trees, commune with nature, snakes and bees. Let your children name themselves and claim themselves as the new day for today we are determined to be the channelers of these changing frequencies into songs, paintings, writings, dance, drama, photography, carpentry, crafts, love, and love. We enlist every instrument: Acoustic, electronic. Every so-called race, gender, and sexual preference. Every per-son as beings of sound to acknowledge their responsibility to uplift the consciousness of the entire fucking World. Any utterance will be un-aimed, will be disclaimed - two rappers slain Any utterance will be un-aimed, will be disclaimed - two rappers slain

I'd bet that most people who spend money on texting the show are a little more sycophantic than message board members are, especially since message board users (especially on respected sites like this, which promotes intelligence and a fairly web-savvy style of posting) are usually the more in-tune fan who are interested in the inner-workings and such. It might be a push of a comparison, but as a wrestling fan, it's the best I can do - wrestlers love fans in the audience, but they hate internet message board fans who discuss it because those on the board know all the backstage stuff and are more critical. Same principle here.

I would imagine that it, amongst CM.net and whatnot, are probably visited at least on a daily basis by a fair few people at R1. They seem pretty net-savvy these days and probably stay on top of the hardcore-fan feedback (especially if it's talking about them). I know that were I on R1, I'd scour high and low to read about myself Mind you, the plugs from Scott probably don't hurt either.

As opposed to putting efforts into worthwhile discussion? You'd think that would be logical, and yet... I wouldn't even class it as chatspeak. It's an old name that was sentimental to me at the time of signing up. But seriously, a rose by any other name... I tried it. Can't stand it. As hard as you might find this to believe, I prefer here to there, even if I'm more of a Moyles fan than a Mills supporter (not that I don't appreciate the merits of Mr. Mills). I'd rather post somewhere with a friendy atmosphere and intelligent posters. You'd think that would be logical, and yet... Plus, the conversation was about Moyles, so surely it makes sense for a Moyles fan to get involved. You'd think that would be... you get the message. As for Jono, I don't want Moyles to be Stern either. Although, that's pretty pointless to say since many of the features Moyles does (song parodies, jingles for team members, etc etc) were taken from Stern anyway. BUT... my point is that you look at the popular DJs of our time, such as Stern and James Whale, and they are popular and practically royalty in radio because they took chances and didn't always cater to this wishy-washy "everything must always be happy" attitude - nor has Moyles even done that (he's been moody and arsey before, worse than today, and I haven't seen this kind of reaction to it). And I personally don't want him ever to do so. I personally, in my humble opinion, want him to chew Louis Walsh out more (not so much Aled - he's a little too beloved, something he has over the Stern team members - it's a plus). But it's all subjective, and I don't want anyone to think that I instantly assume that everyone shares my viewpoint. You should read that blog (which, by the way, I'm a little dishearted that it looks like I posted it here - Jono added it to this thread, for the record. I'm not that arrogant, contrary to how badly I'm probably coming off) as my humble opinion mixed with bits of fact sprinkled over. None of the "facts" are wrong, if nothing else.

Okay... To the fans, he’s the saviour of morning radio. To the critics, he’s an loud-mouthed, egotistical fat bastard. Chris Moyles is, to those keeping score of cold hard fact, one of the most successful radio presenters of the modern era with his second-most popular breakfast show (behind ol’ Terry Wogan). On most days, the BBC Radio One DJ is considered to be a little arrogant, self-absorbed and heavily reliant on his team to provide the entertaining content. On this day, the 29th day of the fifth month of 2008, Moyles is being taken to task for being a little too mean to his producer and scheduled guest. Are you fucking kidding me? Sometimes, I feel as though the people of our great country do not understand the notion of controversy, character and reaction. Did you really think that people watch Big Brother to be enamoured with social experimentation and the psycho-and-sociological conclusions drawn? Of course not. People simply want to see chaos. No one cares about how nice someone is unless there’s something - or someone - to balance that with vindictive evilness. Shilpa Shetty didn’t win Celebrity BB because of her personality. I still couldn’t tell you a single thing about her as a person. All that anyone knows about her for sure is that she was a victim of racism, and any other victor would have plunged Britain into a national crisis. What about the first ever Big Brother? Remember the contestants? I do. Well, two of them. I know of Craig, the eventual winner. And then there’s Nasty Nick, the original bad guy of the series. What good was that show without these contrasting elements? Nothing, is the correct answer, which makes today all the more baffling. For those who didn’t listen to the show this morning, host Chris put aside a supposed code of professionalism to vent his unhappiness at X-Factor judge Louis Walsh pulling out of appearing on the show. The gag, if you can call it that, was to have Walsh answer a series of questions that would allow one minute of interview time - for every correct response - to his current musical project, the revived Boyzone. This didn’t happen; Walsh called Chris the night before to say he wouldn’t be in due to being so tired. Angered, Moyles took his frustrations to the microphone and proceeded to lash out at day producer Aled Haydn Jones, followed by a telephone whipping of Walsh himself. Everybody involved seemed uncomfortable with the situation. Several attempts to diffuse the situation were shot down, and Louis himself even asked Chris if he could get it over with, like a small child who knew he had done wrong and wanted to repent as soon as possible. It was great radio. Not so for the whiney “life must always be happy” jerkbags of the internet, it seems. Countless message boards are playing host to the usual wimpy moaning of sissy-girl bloggers who can’t believe that Chris could be so cruel. Digital Spy, a cesspool of ignorant anoraks stuck in the summer of 1985 where Bruno Brookes could do no wrong, jumped straight into the shark pool to discuss the events. It didn’t take long for Unofficial Mills, the fansite for fellow Radio One presenter Scott Mills, to join in with the incessant ramblings. Clearly, Mills has groomed his audience to only accept smiling faces and tongue-in-cheek humour that pokes fun at those deserving of ridicule, only to pull out at the last minute with the “we‘re only joking” escape clause to save themselves from potentially annoying some old cranky trying to carrying the flag of Mary Whitehouse proudly for the new millennium. How dare anyone vent their angst, pre-planned or not (and let’s not open that can of worms just yet), on their national platform during a show that, in the early days at least, was built on a naïve bridge of young anger drenched in biting sarcasm. How dare the world not be a happy place for one day of the year. How dare he, the flabby cunt. What people don’t understand is that this style of radio WORKS. You only have to take a look at the people who inspire Mr. Moyles to notice that, if anything, he’s been holding back for the last five years. Recently sacked from TalkSport, James Whale was once the staple of hard-hitting ‘speak-before-you-think’ broadcasting until the dreaded Ofcom guidelines slapped the taste out of the old brute’s mouth. Across the ocean, Howard Stern is arguably the most famous and influential radio DJ in the history of the medium. Did he earn a $500 million contract to do four shows a week for five years on the back of laughing at clips of Edith Bowman saying “I‘ve got a lovely pair” on Innuendo Bingo? Christ, no. He produced the most daring, explosive and downright car-crash radio you could imagine, mixed with a genuine talent for interviewing (who amongst you truly doesn’t want to know about celebrity bowel movements?). None of his listeners call in to complain about the treatment that producer Gary Dell’abate receives. They encourage it. He’s “Baba Booey”, an idiot who needs to be put back in his place by the almighty Stern. Similarly, when Stern messes up, his dysfunctional crew of misfits all lay into him with a heavy hand. It’s enthralling radio. More importantly, they don’t kiss anyone’s ass. The world kisses theirs. For three to four hours every morning, the host is, at least on-air, undoubtedly the boss; not the team members, not Boyzone, and certainly not Louis Walsh. Now am I talking about Howard, or am I talking about Chris? In a perfect world, both. Why is everyone so scared of risk taking? The very moment that someone comes across as the tiniest bit self-indulgent, people start to get their knickers twisted like a whore on a hammer wheel. So Chris took no shit from Louis Walsh. Good. He shouldn’t take it from anyone. Jordan wasn’t given this level of sympathy when she was late for the show and subsequently kicked off. Nor should she have been. And please don’t tell me that it should have been settled off the air. Why must radio continue to lie to its listeners? This isn’t 1980 where “that was and this is, here on your favourite rockin‘ and rollin‘ music station” for twenty-four ungodly hours of the day. If anything, the Moyles show is your radio equivalent of Big Brother. Not everybody wants shiny happy people holding hands anymore. Not on a constant, anyway. Sure, the Shilpa Shetty incident caused a little more harm to the product that I’ve given credit for in this instance, but Chris can hardly be accused of racial intolerance from today’s outburst. Although not to that level, what Moyles did was simply showing a real life situation played out for everyone to hear and respond to. I’m almost positive to the point of perversion that every single person who is reading this particularly line right at this very moment has, at one point in their lives, been annoyed at someone for letting them down. I know I have. I also know that I, at some stage, have publicly expressed my distain before. Right now, for example, I am airing my personal feelings on a widely-viewed forum for everyone to see and respond to. Now that doesn’t mean that I’ll be universally praised for my opinions. If anything, I may end up being chastised, vehemently attacked and ex-communicated from your personal list of viewpoints worth taking note of. But I guarantee you’ll remember this far more than had I spent the last hour bragging about how much I love the smell of roses in the morning, and how happy and sentimental I am. Cut the safe-line crap already. Take some chances, see the product for what it is and don’t let one little incident stir you up to the point of having to turn it off. You’re missing out on something potentially groundbreaking - a radio show on a mainstream BBC platform, with a giant pair of balls. Now if only they’d have swung those balls into Louis Walsh’s face and sent him storming off in a hissy fit, maybe I could have been a little more smiley today.

I don't know what he's like in real life. He could be the biggest dick on the planet. Just pointing out that if he *is* a nice guy, I doubt what he does on air for one day will change that personality. Thanks, Metis. Now if you'd kindly add something to the discussion...

How is it? He's probably still cuddly off-air. What he does on-air won't change that, especially one segment like this. He just got understandably angry for one day of his life and brought it to the air for a change-of-pace show. Brilliance. More people should be that honest. I'm sick of hearing wishy-washy "yeah let's take the mick out of someone oops not really just joking still friends happy smiles lol" garbage radio in this country. I still maintain that he should have made Louis hang up in anger, and then ripped him to shreds. He didn't even do that though - he ended up joking around come the end of it, just to appease people like you. That annoyed me, but eh, he probably knew he'd get the whiners and moaners and had to save face.

I must be in the majority because I loved what I heard this morning. Very Stern-esque. Actually, very early Moyles-esque too. I only wish he'd have taken it a step further and goaded Louis into getting angry or crying or something. It was very ambitious considering Moyles is usually only harsh behind peoples backs, guest-wise. Doing it right to them was ballsy and I have every respect for him now, moreso than I did yesterday.

Sounds intriging if so, but I would hope it's only a one-off. Yoppa does make a good point though - if you're gonna do something like this, at least get an audience for it.

I never said they should "play to the camera". In fact, that's the worst thing they can do because that makes it a vanity project. But the point of the video, as far as I'm aware, is to provide an advancement to the experience of the show and at least in my personal opinion (and nothing more), seeing dull reactions with upbeat voices ruins the show. When you listen, you develop a certain imagery and they don't act anything like how they sound, which renders the entire point of being visual pointless because it only takes away instead of adding. There's a difference between being natural and being bored. I didn't even like the Scott Mills show that much (though it certainly wasn't bad), but at least, as said, a lot of their content is quite visual and they played it up to the cameras without playing it up, if that makes sense. They were excited, smiley and natural without constantly staring at or mentioning the cameras and staring at the screens at themselves so that it took over from the radio content. It's really hard to explain what my problem with the Moyles experiment is in a few sentences without confusing anyone, but I just think that they, at least in the early going, put too much emphasis on the cameras without putting any emphasis on showing real emotion. I also don't like the compact studio and camera angles, but that's just aesthetic. For reference, go to Youtube and search "paul mccartney stern" - second video down. Notice they don't act to the cameras either, but develop content that works for both mediums in entertaining ways.

I've posted this on another forum, but this needs a ton of work. I'm too used to the quality of Howard Stern's TV show and this just comes off as so weak in comparison. It's emphasised more with the lack of natural camera presence from everyone bar Dom, who himself is annoying due to his NONSTOP looking at the screen to see himself. Everyone else seem to have forgotten that the point of seeing radio visually (which in effect just makes it a TV show) is that you can no longer get away with the "theatre of the mind" mantra. If your voice sounds excited, your face has to show it too. Chris, Dave and Carrie don't understand this, apparently. But I rant too much.

First thing my Uni lecturer told me in journalism class was that if you can't find anyone better to ask, you go to the public. I presume Newsbeat is no different.

Christ, thank God none of you listen to Howard Stern. You'd be having a heart attack by now.

The concept is perfectly fine. Howard Stern has been doing it for years and I love watching his OnDemand show, which is basically the filmed version of his show, except his studio is stupidly big. [ame]http://youtube.com/watch?v=NEfH9-9yZBc[/ame] Anyone got any videos of last nights show?

Wrong Shaw. Rick Shaw is going to XFM, not Tim.

That link has too many DJ voices to know who you're on about. A better clip would help. I am inclined, however, to say Zane Lowe.

That link has too many DJ voices to know who you're on about. A better clip would help. I am inclined, however, to say Zane Lowe.