Rave Up with Arielle Free

[Jono]

These must take ages to put together - the little snipets of sound that you hear with the Radio 1 on-air 'logo' over the top of a song. Music4 have just put them on their website, and apparently they make them each week for Radio 1.

http://www.music4.com/musicservices/catalogue/532/bbc-radio-1/bbc-radio-1-1tros.html

[Jugalug]

"These must take ages to put together"

Yes, though considerably less if you know what you're doing!

Found these yesterday on the website, they're very good ain't they?

[Jono]

They make it more bearable when there's a pre-record and the newsreader isn't sure when to end the news, which in turn ruins the music. They only have to wait for this bit now.

It's quite impressive what they can do with a beat these days. But when did that first become the Radio 1 'logo'. It just seemed to have started in the news and progressed to the chart before progressing to Radio 1's Big Weekend beds.

[Fraz- J]

Anybody else starting to get slightly obsessed with the 1tros?

[Behelzebub]

These things really annoy me and always have done ever since they were introduced, in my opinion they completely ruin the start of a song.

[E*F*4L]

Morning Rock - Johnny Yawn is the best one :giggle:

http://www.music4.com/musicservices/catalogue/531/bbc-radio-1/chris-moyles-jingles.html

[Behelzebub]

The rest of Music4's output is great, the Moyles stuff in particular, it's just these stupid '1tros' that are irritating...

[Rik]

Some of them are bad like the one on The Killers track, Human. But I suppose they are sometimes quite difficult to create especially if a song starts with a percussive intro, or a song without a melodic intro.

In general, I like them apart from when they chop up the song or add silly effects to make the Idents fit.

[Jono]

These things really annoy me and always have done ever since they were introduced, in my opinion they completely ruin the start of a song.

Compared to what? It only replaced a newsbeat outro which was so loud you missed the start of a song anyway.

[Fraz- J]

I think they're good, they are a bit weird sometimes but, more often than not, they're good

[Behelzebub]

Hmmmm, I don't seem to remember the Newsbeat outro. But regardless I still don't like them.

[Rik]

Compared to what? It only replaced a newsbeat outro which was so loud you missed the start of a song anyway.

I don't remember that. Unless its the same thing as what they use at the 6.30am Newsbeat which has got a mini ramp up to the logo where the Dom says 'It's 6.30, time for the Chris Moyles show.' They also use it over christmas on Newsbeat. Any clips?

[Jono]

I don.t remember that. Unless its the same thing as what they use at the 6.30am Newsbeat which has got a mini ramp up to the logo where the Dom says 'It's 6.30, time for the Chris Moyles show.' They also use it over christmas on Newsbeat. Any clips?

Yes, that is it. That was what you heard and sometimes the song started at the same time and you missed the start.

[Rik]

They have started recycling old 1tros and using them as standard jingles to go over any intro. Who knew Holly from Maidstone's fees were so high, they had to make budget cuts on the jingles.

[Chops]

The newsbeat outro is still on before Scotts wonder years I think.

[alexj]

They have started recycling old 1tros and using them as standard jingles to go over any intro. Who knew Holly from Maidstone's fees were so high, they had to make budget cuts on the jingles.

They are just doing that for old-er songs. For example, if an oldish song came up, they'd just find any suitable 1tro and put it on the beginning instead of just using the generic one they used to use. Pretty much all new songs' intros are still being made by Music 4

[Rob]

I wondered how these came about, I just thought they had a machine that adapted the radio 1 "logo" to the beginning of the song. I really like the Estelle one, it flows into the song nicely where some of them are a bit rough.

[The Stig]

The newsbeat outro is still on before Scotts wonder years I think.

True it is.

[Guest inxces4308]

I wondered how these came about, I just thought they had a machine that adapted the radio 1 "logo" to the beginning of the song.

The BBC are clever, but not that clever

Sure they'll try it one day soon though!

[alexj]

it could easily be set up. They'd just need a database logging all the 1tros and how they start and then all the songs and how they start.

For example, a 1tro could be tagged as "slow piano" and then that would go with a "slow piano" song, such as The Pussycat Dolls - I Hate This part.

Simple

[Jono]

But then you get some like That's Not My Name which opens with 'name, name, name' on top of the beat

[Fraz- J]

Aled Played 'Live Your Life' on The Surgery tonight and the 1tro was AWFUL.

[Jono]

Aled Played 'Live Your Life' on The Surgery tonight and the 1tro was AWFUL.

If you want 1tros the Surgery is the place to go. I agree it sounded a poor job.

[Nik B.]

Well, the thing with 1tros is that because it Has to be that melody (You know, that you can very easily sing Radio 1 over), It's very limited. So some for a handful of songs aren't going to fit at all. Which is a shame but not much can be done with it.

[Guest inxces4308]

I think they will soon start to step back on the amount they use they so they dont burn really quickly. Perhaps we may only hear 1 every hour or two.....