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[James R]

Q1 RAJAR's are out tomorrow (Thursday). As usual what is people predictions?

[BlueSkies]

Last year:

Radio 1: 10.26, Breakfast: 5.78

Last quarter:

Radio 1: 10.97, Breakfast: 6.29

I think they'll probably hold from last quarter, maybe just a slight decrease on breakfast from last quarter, which saw a 700,000 increase then.

I'd predict, Radio 1: 10.95 and Breakfast: 6.26.

[Jordan12]

Radio 1: 10.96 million

R1 Breakfast: 6.28 million

[BlueSkies]

I can't see there being a huge difference this quarter from last. We'll see in a bit...

[BlueSkies]

Q1 2014

Radio 1: 10.53 m

Breakfast: 5.85 m

Quite considerable losses for both compared to last quarter. Although, on the BBC press release they are now also adding figures for aged 10+ for Radio 1. Those figures are 11.48 m and 6.63 m, but hard to compare these figures with others as they don't usually quote them in 10+, instead 15+.

They're keen to point out though that Grimmy's losses are mainly from the 25+ category.

Radio 2's figures on the other hand are quite astonishing. Record breaking figures for them. Looks like even more evidence to me of people being pushed out of Radio 1 to Radio 2.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2014/rajar-q1-2014

[steve24]

Q1 2014

Radio 1: 10.53 m

Breakfast: 5.85 m

Quite considerable losses for both compared to last quarter. Although, on the BBC press release they are now also adding figures for aged 10+ for Radio 1. Those figures are 11.48 m and 6.63 m, but hard to compare these figures with others as they don't usually quote them in 10+, instead 15+.

They're keen to point out though that Grimmy's losses are mainly from the 25+ category.

Radio 2's figures on the other hand are quite astonishing. Record breaking figures for them. Looks like even more evidence to me of people being pushed out of Radio 1 to Radio 2.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2014/rajar-q1-2014

ben Cooper is putting a positive gloss on things but it's never good to lose half a million listeners .Theyre not gaining enough younger listeners yet.I hope Scott isn't replaced by a younger Dj in a desperate attempt to fix the problem

[steve24]

ben Cooper is putting a positive gloss on things but it's never good to lose half a million listeners .Theyre not gaining enough younger listeners yet.I hope Scott isn't replaced by a younger Dj in a desperate attempt to fix the problem

Scott was joking on his show about being replaced by someone 'younger and slimmer' today. Could he be referring to Matt Edmondson by any chance?

[OohErr]

Scott was joking on his show about being replaced by someone 'younger and slimmer' today. Could he be referring to Matt Edmondson by any chance?

I'm getting really paranoid now- I was listening to Monday's podcast when they did the RoNR fact about the prime minister who does a radio show in his country. Scott and Greg were joking about David Cameron getting a show on Radio 1, and they were wondering which slot he'd get, when Scott said "they'd probably give him my show". Are we looking in to this too much?

[BlueSkies]

I'm getting really paranoid now- I was listening to Monday's podcast when they did the RoNR fact about the prime minister who does a radio show in his country. Scott and Greg were joking about David Cameron getting a show on Radio 1, and they were wondering which slot he'd get, when Scott said "they'd probably give him my show". Are we looking in to this too much?

I hope so. I know he still has a contract till next year. At the time it was renewed, I wasn't sure he would renew it again, but the show is sounding so good currently. If Scott did go, I can see the listening figures going down quite significantly. I know it's all about age these days, but I still think Scott appeals to the wanted demographic better than most shows.

[sdg1992]

I hope so. I know he still has a contract till next year. At the time it was renewed, I wasn't sure he would renew it again, but the show is sounding so good currently. If Scott did go, I can see the listening figures going down quite significantly. I know it's all about age these days, but I still think Scott appeals to the wanted demographic better than most shows.

I'd definitely agree with this and I assume the listening figures would too. If you look at the Radio 1 YouTube channel, the content generated by Scott's show (innuendo bingo, Chris' interviews etc) generate more views than any other. If this online Radio 1 TV channel is launching this year then I imagine Scott's output will be crucial to its success. Plus, his podcast allows kids who are in school when he's on air to listen to the show on a daily basis. If they wanted to get rid of Scott (without using age as the reason), they'd have to show that his output isn't appealing to the demographic. It still clearly is.

The main difference between Scott and, for example, Grimmy is that I think Scott doesn't try too hard when appealing to young people. It's a demographic he appeals to anyway. You only have to look at his music taste (which he describes himself as being similar to "a thirteen-year-old girl") to know that. Then I listen to Grimmy's show and it feels like they are trying to aim their show at young people. Teenagers don't like to be talked to like teenagers. That's where I think Scott's show hits the balance perfectly. His show doesn't feel aimed at young people specifically but he talks about things young people are interested in.

I think that if they were to let Scott go now because of his age it would cause real uproar. You only have to look at the comments on anything Radio 1 post on Facebook to see the impact that Moyles leaving had on the station. I've been listening back to a lot of old Moyles podcasts recently and, towards the end, his output was very much out of target. He was referencing 80s radio, he had Roy Walker appearing on a daily basis (who wouldn't have even been on TV in the lifetime of many in the target audience) and Keith Chegwin was making regular appearances. I adored Moyles' show when it was on the radio but in terms of it appealing on Radio 1, it came to an end at the right time. Scott s nowhere near that yet. I think they'll let Scott's show come to a natural end, whenever that may be and whenever Scott wants it to be.

[Jordan12]

I'd definitely agree with this and I assume the listening figures would too. If you look at the Radio 1 YouTube channel, the content generated by Scott's show (innuendo bingo, Chris' interviews etc) generate more views than any other. If this online Radio 1 TV channel is launching this year then I imagine Scott's output will be crucial to its success. Plus, his podcast allows kids who are in school when he's on air to listen to the show on a daily basis. If they wanted to get rid of Scott (without using age as the reason), they'd have to show that his output isn't appealing to the demographic. It still clearly is.

The main difference between Scott and, for example, Grimmy is that I think Scott doesn't try too hard when appealing to young people. It's a demographic he appeals to anyway. You only have to look at his music taste (which he describes himself as being similar to "a thirteen-year-old girl") to know that. Then I listen to Grimmy's show and it feels like they are trying to aim their show at young people. Teenagers don't like to be talked to like teenagers. That's where I think Scott's show hits the balance perfectly. His show doesn't feel aimed at young people specifically but he talks about things young people are interested in.

I think that if they were to let Scott go now because of his age it would cause real uproar. You only have to look at the comments on anything Radio 1 post on Facebook to see the impact that Moyles leaving had on the station. I've been listening back to a lot of old Moyles podcasts recently and, towards the end, his output was very much out of target. He was referencing 80s radio, he had Roy Walker appearing on a daily basis (who wouldn't have even been on TV in the lifetime of many in the target audience) and Keith Chegwin was making regular appearances. I adored Moyles' show when it was on the radio but in terms of it appealing on Radio 1, it came to an end at the right time. Scott s nowhere near that yet. I think they'll let Scott's show come to a natural end, whenever that may be and whenever Scott wants it to be.

Scott's show is as you said on point at the moment and he announced on Friday that the Scott Mills Daily has been downloaded over 905,000 times in April. This just shows that in addition to the many millions that listen live in the afternoon, nearly a million more are catching up "on demand". Like it's been suggested, if Scott is forced because of ageism at the BBC I will be furious but if he chooses to move on without management influence, I will respect his decision although I don't think he'll leave voluntary for a few more years because he's regularly said that he's a "radio nerd" and has been since the age of 8. You can also tell that he's well loved and respected at Radio 1 and he loves doing his job. He is primary cover presenter for 4 shows which is quite a lot considering the majority of other DJ's never do cover shows.

[harrysmyth]

I think that if they were to let Scott go now because of his age it would cause real uproar. You only have to look at the comments on anything Radio 1 post on Facebook to see the impact that Moyles leaving had on the station. I've been listening back to a lot of old Moyles podcasts recently and, towards the end, his output was very much out of target. He was referencing 80s radio, he had Roy Walker appearing on a daily basis (who wouldn't have even been on TV in the lifetime of many in the target audience) and Keith Chegwin was making regular appearances. I adored Moyles' show when it was on the radio but in terms of it appealing on Radio 1, it came to an end at the right time. Scott s nowhere near that yet. I think they'll let Scott's show come to a natural end, whenever that may be and whenever Scott wants it to be.

Very true!

[harrysmyth]

I think that if they were to let Scott go now because of his age it would cause real uproar. You only have to look at the comments on anything Radio 1 post on Facebook to see the impact that Moyles leaving had on the station. I've been listening back to a lot of old Moyles podcasts recently and, towards the end, his output was very much out of target. He was referencing 80s radio, he had Roy Walker appearing on a daily basis (who wouldn't have even been on TV in the lifetime of many in the target audience) and Keith Chegwin was making regular appearances. I adored Moyles' show when it was on the radio but in terms of it appealing on Radio 1, it came to an end at the right time. Scott s nowhere near that yet. I think they'll let Scott's show come to a natural end, whenever that may be and whenever Scott wants it to be.

Very true!

[steve24]

Very true!

The good news is that even if Scott does leave radio 1 at the end of his current contract it looks like his future on the BBC is secure . He'll be presenting his first show on radio 2 on bank holiday monday at 8pm . That's a good sign .He'll probably do m ore and more shows on radio 2 like Sara Cox did till he moves there full time

[DC]

The good news is that even if Scott does leave radio 1 at the end of his current contract it looks like his future on the BBC is secure . He'll be presenting his first show on radio 2 on bank holiday monday at 8pm . That's a good sign .He'll probably do m ore and more shows on radio 2 like Sara Cox did till he moves there full time

I can see this happening, and I think it's a good thing. I think Radio 2 will eventually fully move on from the 60's type sound it's been putting across for years. And pull in the Radio 1 listeners of the 90's and 00's such as myself. It's already in full swing with Chris Evans, Simon Mayo, Mark Radcliffe, Sara Cox, Dave Pearce etc doing or having done shows on there. Scott would be a great addition as I'm not sure how much longer Steve Wright will be there, or how much longer people will put up with him...