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. I hate followers like that and just ignore or block.

I know. Ones of your ilk !!

This topic has just hit the 1,000 hits mark. Get in there !! Lots of potential voters (for the right party - SNP) hopefully.

*releases fireworks*

www.yesscotland.net - hopefully Salmond will appear a LOT more on TV, to answer a LOT of questions coming up, and clarify his position ... I am sure he will do.

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This topic has just hit the 1,000 hits mark. Get in there !! Lots of potential voters (for the right party - SNP) hopefully.

*releases fireworks*

www.yesscotland.net - hopefully Salmond will appear a LOT more on TV, to answer a LOT of questions coming up, and clarify his position ... I am sure he will do.

Not every hit on here necessarily guarantees a vote.

Just realised... every political party likes choons to back it up, don't they!!

Just found one... click on the link !! :hahaha: http://youtu.be/3GwjfUFyY6M

Mind you, Labour once had "The Only Way Is Up", didn't they?!? Hmmm

Think it was 'Things Can Only Get Better', by DReam, with Prof Brian Cox on keyboards no less.

'To disagree with three-fourths of the British public is one of the first requisites of sanity'.

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Yes! "things can only get better".. Irony being they got MUCH, MUCH worse. Ha. anyhow... Leafleting does not even begin until later this year, so salmond has lots of time to convince us all, and clarify some of the questions coming up (sure he will have the answers). with available cash for proper jobs and training, programmes such as "workfare" (under a conservative government) could be scrapped. Read www.boycottworkfare.org .... This is the kind of government we need to disassociate ourselves with.

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Should have gone to specsavers...... i am being followed by the british monarchy society on twitter today. This scares me.

I thought you liked the monarchy... what with all the royal wedding tweets that you were doing last year. And talk about avoiding the subject...

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Have changed mind about monarchy when i found out what this government did with the workfare people attending the jubilee. as regards the millions of questions coming up, i am not going continually forum to forum finding answers. It is up salmond now to address all this stuff. or email [email protected]

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Like the monarchy had a say in the steward supplier? Naïve to suggest they did.

Had another thought earlier... BBC wouldn't supply Scotland, so that's another thing they'd have to find the money for... and I suppose as they wish to distance themselves from Britain they'd drop English as the national language.

(I'm so glad Viv managed to comprehensively answer the points made in my last post too... it shows a really well thought out argument.)

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Like the monarchy had a say in the steward supplier? Naïve to suggest they did.

Good point. Was going to post something along these lines on The Queen Thread. It is a disgraceful situation, but a private company was simply hired to deal with stewards. I don't think that the fact that they turned out to be dealers in slave labour should have any connection to the Royal family.

This company have been well and truly named and shamed in The Guardian, and I wouldn't imagine they'll be getting many contracts in the forseeable future. Hopefully they're being investigated.

'To disagree with three-fourths of the British public is one of the first requisites of sanity'.

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Again, Viv answers my points well...

And to be honest, I doubt the government knew the conditions that the stewards would be left in, whilst they may seem out of touch to many, they are not morons, and understand that effective slave labor would be bad press, at best, and at worst, potentially career ending.

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I suspect they will care more around Election time, and I can't quite believe they were naive enough that they didn't consider such abuses happening with the way they set the program up. Surprised it's still going after the Tesco incident and mass pullout as a result of that. There's more here that has yet to come to light.

Anyways back on Topic:

Saw this sarcastic tweet not long ago, actually thought it was an argument by someone on that rarest of things, the 'Viv side' at first (Sarcasm doesn't always translate well, as we know)

"I guess in an independent Scotland, we wouldn't tax fuel. And we'd still balance our books."

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No, the government are defo NOT morons. i am quite certain the work programme is functioning exactly how the conservatives meant it to..... I.e. Letting companies prosper at the expense of the most vulnerable. i am really not sure how much this www.boycottworkfare.org is actually helping. i am reading through a LOT of stories... Argos, primark, tesco. but people are still being sent out to these placements anyway?! the conservatives will never see another term in government anyway.

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Yeh. Thatcher. Believe there is even a pink floyd song about the shipyards. somewhere back in the mists of time. us scottish don't vote these conservatives in, but we have to pick up the pieces.

To be fair, the rest of the country didn't vote them in this time either... hence NO-ONE wanting them.

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So your argument about the ship industry is that they should have continued to use tax payers money to build ships we don't need?

Seems sensible.

(Also, in principle I agree with the idea of people volunteering to get work experience and probably gaining a job from it (experience is highly valued), however forcing people to do it is not the right way to do it. Just give people the option to...)

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See this could be a whole seperate topic, but I think that 'experience' gained from things such as Workfare and the former format of it, Labour's New Deal, CAN be valuable, but companies like Tesco were blatently profiteering whereas at least under the Labour version of it, the work experience tended to be with smaller companies or, as was the case of the company I did a ND placement with, a charity. It should not be an alternative to paying employees properly at least National Minimum Wage, also the TYPE of job should be considered. Not many employers will be seeking/need experience in shelf-stacking or other 'simpler' jobs, for instance. Good idea for graduates from the different levels of education, but there are also plenty of people who already have plenty of experience in their chosen field being forced into these programs when experience probably is not where they need help to enhance.

Viv, people probably think you could do worse on your own, why not give us an actual case as to why they're wrong?

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